tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post1366426324276149995..comments2024-03-28T22:08:48.577-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: WarOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24755882066769831772015-12-10T17:00:46.581-08:002015-12-10T17:00:46.581-08:00One can only hope.
And pray.One can only hope.<br /><br />And pray.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-54967331915289869812015-12-10T16:07:05.813-08:002015-12-10T16:07:05.813-08:00We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt da...We are the Dead. Short days ago<br /> We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,<br /> Loved and were loved, and now we lie<br /> In Flanders fields.<br /><br /> Take up our quarrel with the foe:<br /> To you from failing hands we throw<br /> The torch; be yours to hold it high.<br /> If ye break faith with us who die<br /> We shall not sleep, though poppies grow<br /> In Flanders fields.<br /><br />Not for nothing.Captain Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17297301009511642108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-28945451699855678462015-12-10T12:14:02.529-08:002015-12-10T12:14:02.529-08:00I shall have to give that a listen, thanks for the...I shall have to give that a listen, thanks for the link Scott.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-23491685642185141142015-12-10T12:11:25.745-08:002015-12-10T12:11:25.745-08:00Funny how that works, the media takes things out o...Funny how that works, the media takes things out of context all the time now. Back then we still trusted them.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-12501442765570265052015-12-10T12:09:41.399-08:002015-12-10T12:09:41.399-08:00I see your point Cap'n, it's a good one.I see your point Cap'n, it's a good one.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-75808514827541226932015-12-10T12:05:00.351-08:002015-12-10T12:05:00.351-08:00I have always found Carbon Leaf's The War Was ...I have always found Carbon Leaf's The War Was In Color to be very moving. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf29IIQuqYkSCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-25751758866308755872015-12-10T11:58:51.290-08:002015-12-10T11:58:51.290-08:00The photographer says that he regrets taking that ...The photographer says that he regrets taking that photo, and how it was used to destroy an innocent man, who was killing a mad dog.SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-8403725259576533162015-12-10T11:56:30.445-08:002015-12-10T11:56:30.445-08:00They didn't die for nothing. They just didn...They didn't die for nothing. They just didn't die for anything they wanted. WWI was probably the most profound war in the second millenium. It, whatever caused it, swept away the old order and brought in the new. People alive today no longer even think of the entities those men fought and died for. They are all but extinguished now. WWI and a lost generation of men did that as their masters bankrupted every empire on the planet to keep them out fighting in those fields. It saw the passing of all of the old empires and brought about the imminent demise of the remaining empires when the second round was fought 20 years later.<br /><br />Good post. Haunting song.HMS Defianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024721130102173694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-72328377119685632462015-12-10T06:18:27.727-08:002015-12-10T06:18:27.727-08:00I have always hated that picture being taken out o...I have always hated that picture being taken out of context. That VC had it coming, harsh I know, but understandable given the circumstances.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-7511370045053030042015-12-10T06:16:05.910-08:002015-12-10T06:16:05.910-08:00I think because WWI led to WWII, and that the &quo...I think because WWI led to WWII, and that the "Great War" really didn't solve anything but created more problems, is the reasoning behind the "died in vain, died for nothing" narrative. From the perspective of WWI, those men truly died for very little purpose, it took another generation to fight it all over again in 1939-1945. On the Somme, from 01 July to 18 November 1916, over a million men were killed or wounded. The British Fourth Army alone suffered 57,470 casualties on the <b><em>first day</em></b> of the offensive. The battle raged another four and a half months, the war itself lasted another two years. The British Army never really recovered from that bloodletting. One can seriously make an argument for all of those men dying in vain, for nothing. Their deaths decided nothing.<br /><br />Only the dead have seen an end to war.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-13475824782679819282015-12-10T06:12:07.076-08:002015-12-10T06:12:07.076-08:00Really nicely done. Thanks. I will only add that t...Really nicely done. Thanks. I will only add that the notorious photograph of the Viet Cong being shot in the head by a South Vietnamese police officer is often deployed by the antiwar left as an example of pitiless murder. In actuality the Viet Cong was a commando, who had just been busy murdering women and children who were families of South Vietnamese police and military officers; including the officer wielding the pistol. Knowing the facts puts a different light on the picture. Captain Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17297301009511642108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-62586320319410767252015-12-10T05:59:51.449-08:002015-12-10T05:59:51.449-08:00You can't really wrap your mind around the mag...You can't really wrap your mind around the magnitude of the tragedy of war. I do think that the WWI "died in vain, died for nothing" narrative is a bit superficial. It's a stirring song but I don't think Willie would agree that his sacrifice was for nothing. As I ponder the question it occurs to me that the common narrative springs largely from a deep well of survivor's guilt and the understanding that those who remained and came after rather squandered the gift these men gave the world.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24034747714575365012015-12-10T04:47:36.021-08:002015-12-10T04:47:36.021-08:00Thanks.Thanks.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76137194059262393612015-12-10T04:47:18.672-08:002015-12-10T04:47:18.672-08:00I stumbled upon it quite by accident. Now I can...I stumbled upon it quite by accident. Now I can't stop listening, the words are pretty haunting, particularly the chorus.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-74621267259671554732015-12-10T04:42:29.352-08:002015-12-10T04:42:29.352-08:00Well said.Well said.taminator013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-8158247427749693902015-12-10T04:37:07.187-08:002015-12-10T04:37:07.187-08:00I heard that song once years ago, but I never knew...I heard that song once years ago, but I never knew who did it or what it was called so I wasn't able to find it again, much as I wanted to. Thanks for that, and thanks for remembering.Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.com