tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post4177839659424171568..comments2024-03-28T09:32:13.767-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Old age and Treachery...*OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-55268992724509900332016-12-21T05:57:17.660-08:002016-12-21T05:57:17.660-08:00Lex seemed to do OK with his Kfir which was roughl...Lex seemed to do OK with his Kfir which was roughly the same capabilities as a MIG. Both the AF and Navy Aggressor Squadrons were quite capable of handing a pilot, regardless of his aircraft, his butt whilst flying F-5s with a very rudimentary radar and weapons. Ask me how I know that!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3948307640964933532016-12-21T05:54:42.892-08:002016-12-21T05:54:42.892-08:00Good question. I don't recall noticing that t...Good question. I don't recall noticing that the nose gear was off center, so it's probably not a matter of fitting into the gear well. Unless there's a box in there I don't remember. A Puzzlement, which gives me something to do over the holidays! :-)juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-31330712519409898132016-12-20T22:08:08.569-08:002016-12-20T22:08:08.569-08:00I think the true measure of technology is the abil...I think the true measure of technology is the ability for it to allow the man to achieve greatness with it. The F-86, the F-4, the F-105, are all great examples of such technology. The stuff is good, the men make the legends with the stuff.<br /><br />Makes me wonder what a bunch of retired AF pilots with updated Mig 21s could achieve, considering how well that airframe could perform with a decent pilot in it.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-34202003097950788342016-12-20T19:45:07.947-08:002016-12-20T19:45:07.947-08:00I have a question about the Phantom. Why are the t...I have a question about the Phantom. Why are the torque links on the nose gear sticking out to the right side of the oleo instead of on the centreline like every other aircraft ever built? <br /><br />Al_in_OttawaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-44693929080938345612016-12-20T18:56:03.464-08:002016-12-20T18:56:03.464-08:00The avionics were third generation. So, again equa...The avionics were third generation. So, again equal pilots.... a Tomcat should lose.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-27347260878570747042016-12-20T17:58:02.015-08:002016-12-20T17:58:02.015-08:00Would a D model Tomcat, with the same engines you ...Would a D model Tomcat, with the same engines you had, be more of a threat?SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68690120091241614672016-12-20T12:27:50.925-08:002016-12-20T12:27:50.925-08:00We fought Tomcat's quite frequently. The Phoe...We fought Tomcat's quite frequently. The Phoenix wasn't much of a threat to fighter sized maneuvering aircraft, so no worries on the Hail Mary from Minneapolis. The Red Baron's saying still played a factor, but...If one of my guys got his butt handed to him by a Tomcat, his next ride would be with me and I'd be looking very carefully at his skills. Not officially, but taking a careful look nonetheless. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68059053364205306802016-12-20T11:43:49.754-08:002016-12-20T11:43:49.754-08:00Yep, it takes a few years for a technology leaping...Yep, it takes a few years for a technology leaping aircraft to mature. During that time, well...Skip doesn't want me to abuse the Old Age and....Thing.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48547215495326104932016-12-20T11:41:23.302-08:002016-12-20T11:41:23.302-08:00You very clearly got the meaning of the post. As ...You very clearly got the meaning of the post. As for the flying scenario...A lot of the intercept is figuring out the target, acquiring parameters, launching weapons and making sure they guide. However, as soon as you hit the button, there's a long smoke trail that points right back at you. So, the purpose of my little exercise was to simulate that we have gotten through that first fight (merge) and now have to get our Situation Awareness back up, detect any close in bad guys and either kill them or evade them. Since two fighters converging from 10 miles will pass each other in ~30 seconds and be in weapons parameters even earlier, there's not much time to gather your wits before you're vulnerable to eating a missile. This exercise was a way to practice that.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-55457097904832821262016-12-20T09:16:07.923-08:002016-12-20T09:16:07.923-08:00Great post! Thanks for the linky love too! Always ...Great post! Thanks for the linky love too! Always interesting to get into the other side's minds...LOLOld NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-83398127032949225552016-12-20T04:55:27.634-08:002016-12-20T04:55:27.634-08:00I was aware of the Growler incident up at Whidbey....I was aware of the Growler incident up at Whidbey. Still waiting for updates on the crew.<br /><br />Heh. Kobayashi Maru. Yeah, I can picture that.<br /><br />(Interesting stuff is always welcome Bruce!)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-35557673322757543392016-12-20T00:49:53.220-08:002016-12-20T00:49:53.220-08:00Did you ever get to show a Tomcat what for? Did T...Did you ever get to show a Tomcat what for? Did Tomcats have to agree to not shoot you down from Minneapolis, and close to Sparrow range? I am interested, as Tomcats and Eagles are the world's Premier Sky Predators.<br />SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-25344839329192473722016-12-19T19:11:52.885-08:002016-12-19T19:11:52.885-08:00 I remember reading the stories immediately after ... I remember reading the stories immediately after Vietnam of these hot air force jocks in F-15s going against old Vietnam vets in F4s for some exercises <br /><br /> And on a fairly regular basis the old guys in the old airplanes would wax the new guysWilliamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05720206407574457665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-61022373490421878022016-12-19T17:16:06.418-08:002016-12-19T17:16:06.418-08:00First, glad you're okay Juvat.
Second, I apol...First, glad you're okay Juvat.<br /><br />Second, I apologize for hijacking the thread, but I saw <a href="https://www.navytimes.com/articles/navy-aircrew-injured-at-nas-whidbey-island" rel="nofollow">this article</a> today, and thought people here would want to know. These folks could use all the support they can get.<br /><br />Third, I've been interested in hearing the USAF' side of the story. Not wanting to abuse our hosts' hospitality, but I keep picturing Lex debriefing the flight like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6fMuUraWtc&feature=youtu.be&t=83" rel="nofollow">this</a>.<br /><br />Bruce JonesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82019935747637138032016-12-19T16:56:57.554-08:002016-12-19T16:56:57.554-08:00While I don't clearly understand the flying sc...While I don't clearly understand the flying scenarios, I understand that what is between the pilot's ears is far more important than what is attached to his seat.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80917075650099238952016-12-19T15:25:13.199-08:002016-12-19T15:25:13.199-08:00Heh. I grok that.Heh. I grok that.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38797320893946136392016-12-19T11:20:58.828-08:002016-12-19T11:20:58.828-08:00Course, EVERYBODY mentions when they get even a fl...Course, EVERYBODY mentions when they get even a fleeting shot on an Eagle. Strangely quiet though the rest of the time.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-72717056348551439422016-12-19T11:19:25.510-08:002016-12-19T11:19:25.510-08:00Dang! I'm STILL too young?
My knees and back ...Dang! I'm STILL too young?<br /><br />My knees and back don't agree.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-29618368666738506712016-12-19T11:17:30.798-08:002016-12-19T11:17:30.798-08:00What Sarge Said!What Sarge Said!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76732065389731223492016-12-19T10:27:06.329-08:002016-12-19T10:27:06.329-08:00Remember Skip, those who would benefit are too you...Remember Skip, those who would benefit are too young and arrogant to believe it!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-6583506319901369962016-12-19T09:42:05.327-08:002016-12-19T09:42:05.327-08:00I sure wish some folks would keep the OA&T quo...I sure wish some folks would keep the OA&T quote under wraps. <br />It's giving away too much information (not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82980665356583599502016-12-19T06:27:00.399-08:002016-12-19T06:27:00.399-08:00You are too young Juvat, wait for a few more decad...You are too young Juvat, wait for a few more decades to roll by. :)<br />Ron Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217389199007968254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-59103260781063331692016-12-19T06:12:22.791-08:002016-12-19T06:12:22.791-08:00Yeah, would that I could think that fast on my fee...Yeah, would that I could think that fast on my feet (well....paws).juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-5999411915687903322016-12-19T06:11:35.600-08:002016-12-19T06:11:35.600-08:00"Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the be...<i>"Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you!"</i> Loved it.<br />Thanksjuvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-59435969638810699182016-12-19T05:24:13.080-08:002016-12-19T05:24:13.080-08:00Great post Juvat. Funny about the poodle.Great post Juvat. Funny about the poodle.Ron Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217389199007968254noreply@blogger.com