tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post4761901068909112413..comments2024-03-28T22:08:48.577-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Hercules and the RangersOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-81728299443901606482015-03-25T13:41:38.607-07:002015-03-25T13:41:38.607-07:00The Ranger course is a damn good training ground, ...The Ranger course is a damn good training ground, regardless of whether or not you go to the Regiment.<br /><br />Anything which improves the fighting capabilities of our guys is well worth the money.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-75868330693958062822015-03-25T12:22:53.237-07:002015-03-25T12:22:53.237-07:00The Army Ranger course was a 58 day "hands-on...The Army Ranger course was a 58 day "hands-on" school in infantry small unit tactics. It was conducted in three phases- what was called "City" phase in the old Harmony Church area of Ft Benning, Mountain Phase up at Camp Frank D. Merrill, in north Georgia, and the jungle phase at Camp Rudder in the swamps of Eglin AFB. In the 80s there was a 4th desert phase. The learning environment was "enhanced" by the smiling Ranger Instructors, sleep deprivation and "rationing" of chow when in a field environment. The small unit infantry tactics started off at the squad level and culminated with a company sized raid on an island off of Fort Walton Beach at night using RB-15s. Each ranger student rotated through each job and each leadership position. By the time the student graduated the tactics and techniques, troop leading procedures and checklists were indelibly etched in their psyche. It was very easy to get hurt as was mentioned by a commenter. Back in the day -Army ROTC cadets could opt to attend Ranger School in lieu of the standard Advanced Camp, I turned it down and was told by our Commandant of Cadets I probably lost my opportunity for a Regular Commission. My thinking was I didn't want to risk getting hurt so as to lose a commission, period. My brother, in a light infantry unit, trashed his knee a couple weeks before the end of the course. There was an old tradition back when the Army was still in the green fatigue uniform and perhaps with the BDUs - Ranger School grads who went thru the course in the winter used to have their Ranger Tab sewn on with white thread. As Juvat is wont to say, I digress. I would strongly disagree that it is a waste of time for anyone other than members of the Ranger Regiment. The skill sets the soldier has inculcated as a graduate has great value regardless if in the Ranger Regt (the Scroll wearers) or in any infantry unit in the Army. My stuff here is obviously dated - Dust , Ranger Class 10-78Dusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11174387033075095930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-45135321781704753852015-03-24T13:22:11.062-07:002015-03-24T13:22:11.062-07:00I'm hearing there's a difference between a...I'm hearing there's a difference between a tab and a scroll. Tab means you finished the course- whether you're an infantry guy, a cook, radio dude or even a female nowadays. The scroll means you're in a Ranger Regiment and an "actual" Ranger. Why the Army would pay for a guy or gal to travel to the school, allow them to leave their job for 2 months, then just go back to their original job now just wearing a tab seems like a big waste of time and money. If you need a SOF guy, make him a SOF guy. Or am I wrong about Rangers being SOF? Tunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-73486273445313732332015-03-24T06:48:17.838-07:002015-03-24T06:48:17.838-07:00Great fun as always Juvat. Thanks again for bright...Great fun as always Juvat. Thanks again for brightening my day and clearing the dust out of my sinuses!<br /><br />You've got my wayback machine remembering pranks and engine outs. Could be a bad sign.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-73870642214154360442015-03-24T06:45:29.393-07:002015-03-24T06:45:29.393-07:00In the ongoing flap about lowering standards for f...In the ongoing flap about lowering standards for female candidates, one trendy argument is that those lacking the tabs (check in the box) are less competitive for advancement/promotion.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24509791054763451342015-03-24T06:41:25.486-07:002015-03-24T06:41:25.486-07:00Mal de Mer and shots -- the great equalizers!Mal de Mer and shots -- the great equalizers!PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24200109711872248612015-03-23T23:35:54.895-07:002015-03-23T23:35:54.895-07:00@Tuna I think among career soldiers having the Ran...@Tuna I think among career soldiers having the Ranger Tab is a plus. I don't think the school lasts that long but it is hell. My Nephew spent a lot of time in swamps as I recall.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05720206407574457665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-13497330628511696632015-03-23T20:38:27.077-07:002015-03-23T20:38:27.077-07:00Never understood that whole Ranger Tab thing. Not...Never understood that whole Ranger Tab thing. Not to take anything away from the guys who get through Ranger School, what purpose does it serve if you aren't a Ranger? Seems like a lot of effort for too little gain.Tunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-79493950395417939552015-03-23T20:06:22.515-07:002015-03-23T20:06:22.515-07:00Or Hot.....
Or Hot.....<br />juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-41898451033408058902015-03-23T17:57:28.853-07:002015-03-23T17:57:28.853-07:00I can vouch for that!I can vouch for that!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-73804956115111599782015-03-23T17:55:38.527-07:002015-03-23T17:55:38.527-07:00Hercs are COLD too... :-)Hercs are COLD too... :-)Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82536476940644032742015-03-23T15:19:22.301-07:002015-03-23T15:19:22.301-07:00Met a few of those in my day. I agree with your a...Met a few of those in my day. I agree with your assessment.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82677586376320838902015-03-23T14:48:23.942-07:002015-03-23T14:48:23.942-07:00I never had any contact with Rangers, but the fell...I never had any contact with Rangers, but the fellas from Marine Recon were pretty badass. . . once they got past being seasick.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-17446831636463896682015-03-23T10:59:51.715-07:002015-03-23T10:59:51.715-07:00Sorry, to hear about your nephew. It, like a few ...Sorry, to hear about your nephew. It, like a few but not many, others is extremely difficult and I have a great deal of respect for those who are successful. Which does not exclude them from having their chain pulled occasionally. Carefully pulled, but pulled.<br />Working in an elementary school, I occasionally read to the younguns. Cat in the Hat, Green Eggs and Ham and the 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins are perennial favorites.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-30032766308990524962015-03-23T10:55:37.928-07:002015-03-23T10:55:37.928-07:00Thanks,
You can take it out of my next pay check.Thanks,<br />You can take it out of my next pay check.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-69899599031447951322015-03-23T10:10:38.253-07:002015-03-23T10:10:38.253-07:00My nephew, West Point grad (tough in itself) went ...My nephew, West Point grad (tough in itself) went through Ranger School and blew out his back. Something abouit carrying 100 lb packs.<br /><br /> Noisy Basement - good description. Oncew flew in one from Frankfurt to Crete - over 8 hours. Kept hearing it for the next 24 hours. <br /><br />I'll bet Lockheed had no idea in 1955 they would be so popular. <br /><br />Thing 1 and Thing w (thanks to Dr Seuss) - I liked it too! Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05720206407574457665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-29954075242063232552015-03-23T08:55:13.500-07:002015-03-23T08:55:13.500-07:00Heh. One of your best yet.
Thing 1 and Thing 2 - ...Heh. One of your best yet.<br /><br />Thing 1 and Thing 2 - I need a new spray guard for my monitor.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-27727267609442708042015-03-23T07:55:24.777-07:002015-03-23T07:55:24.777-07:00Looking forward to it.Looking forward to it.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-26820324207658913112015-03-23T07:51:04.704-07:002015-03-23T07:51:04.704-07:00Hmm. Foreign objects in beverages. Fell a blog pos...Hmm. Foreign objects in beverages. Fell a blog post in the near future.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.com