tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post6763499817390487906..comments2024-03-29T02:32:07.583-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Don't You Know There's A War On?OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-32633154943179308782016-05-28T07:46:40.940-07:002016-05-28T07:46:40.940-07:00After reading his paper, I dug deeper. There's...After reading his paper, I dug deeper. There's an interesting video of the General (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo1hp_LMGF8" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a>) revealing a Fascist plot to overthrow the government. That put me into the context of the time. You're right, for the times in which he lived he was spot on indeed.<br /><br />Getting things in the right context is critical for an historian. You'd think I would remember that what with my claims of being an historian (albeit an amateur).<br /><br />Wikipedia (of course) has a list of names from VENONA. It's not the names so much as the job titles attached to those names that make one shudder.<br /><br />As always Cap'n, you make me think.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-83942239479596440042016-05-27T21:14:27.815-07:002016-05-27T21:14:27.815-07:00One has to place the man in the context of his tim...One has to place the man in the context of his time. Yeah, it may look like a screed now.... It was spot on back then.<br /><br />The last 60 years are rife with writers who pose that it was the industrialists in Germany that got behind Hitler and National Socialism and pushed, hard. Remember, Germany was prostrate by the terms of the treaty of vienna. They needed to jump start industry and get the shovel ready jobs into production. They found a man and they funded him much the way Soros does today.<br /><br />OTOH, not a conspiracy theorist. Placing history into the light that shined on it in its own time is very important. Primary sources are still good right up until about JFK. After that the record gets murky because the real material was classified and carefully buried. Think how much could have been sidestepped if the NSA had just released the VENONA stuff in 1965 instead of 1990.<br /><br />It's all food for thought.HMS Defianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024721130102173694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-41891634994956560312016-05-26T06:53:18.205-07:002016-05-26T06:53:18.205-07:00Well, I did go have a look at Smedley's screed...Well, I did go have a look at Smedley's screed (available <a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html#c1" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a>) and came away less than impressed. I guess he became jaded <b>after</b> conquering Central America for the United Fruit Company.<br /><br />While I agree with some of his points I think his experience came about during perhaps one of the worst points in the history of corporations. I certainly believe his contention that Wilson took us into WWI because they didn't want to lose the money owed by the Allies. (Did they ever actually pay that back?) What you experience colors your observations. How they used the Marine Corps to support corporate interests was criminal.<br /><br />As a side note, I never really bought the whole <em>Lusitania</em> theory. Really, a ship sunk in May of 1915 with Americans on board brought the U.S. into the war two years later. (April of 1917, yes, Congress is slow, but not that slow.)<br /><br />Nazi Germany was not actually run by Krupp, Thiessen, Siemens, et al. While they did collude to assist Hitler into power (figuring that his plans to re-arm Germany would mean big profits), once they had "released the kraken" (so to speak), they had no control whatsoever over the Nazis. People with guns will trump people with checkbooks any day of the week. (Unless you can pay the gun-toters off before they kill you as an "enemy of the state.")<br /><br />How you define war (survival, National Interests) <b>is</b> important. But when our troops are dying, when the bombs are falling, I call that war. I'm looking at this from the micro-level, not the macro. Stopping the jihadis <b>is</b> a matter of survival, therefore I would argue that we are, indeed, at war with them.<br /><br />Just because corporate America wants to ignore a problem (as there is no profit to be made?) doesn't mean there isn't a problem.<br /><br />Or a war.<br /><br />If we get to the point Venezuela has reached, then we are all well and truly screwed.<br /><br />As always Cap'n you bring interesting thoughts to the table.<br /><br />(And you got my blood pumping, always a good thing at my age.)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76159946130965483552016-05-26T05:40:36.655-07:002016-05-26T05:40:36.655-07:00Agree to disagree.Agree to disagree.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-75243412373979843552016-05-26T01:50:25.216-07:002016-05-26T01:50:25.216-07:00+1+1Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-7531125293109503552016-05-25T21:59:42.508-07:002016-05-25T21:59:42.508-07:00We're not at war.
A read of Smedley Butler&#...We're not at war. <br /><br />A read of Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket" would be a valuable investment of time.<br /><br />Wars are fought for survival or in the National Interest. We haven't done that since World War II. Some may argue Korea. Certainly not Vietnam and nothing since then.<br /><br />Like the Romans and some others we are losing the battle to remain as we were. Change is coming but it owes little to military prowess or lack of it. We get to what it is that the people "will". We have no Napoleon to rally the mob to the ideal of 'saving the nation/state'. We'll see what mob rule brings. It usually brings on things like Venezuela but this is the most heavily armed population in the world. We'll see if they can pull that off here.HMS Defianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024721130102173694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-41381883372640971392016-05-25T17:47:20.504-07:002016-05-25T17:47:20.504-07:00I fear it's worse than the Carter years.I fear it's worse than the Carter years.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-11245770395600945292016-05-25T16:39:43.846-07:002016-05-25T16:39:43.846-07:00"If we're perceived as weak..."
To..."If we're perceived as weak..." <br /><br />Too late for that. When my youngest graduated high school, he went with 5 of <br />his buddies to join the Marines. Matt got rejected due to a bad knee received<br />in a motocross accident but his buddies were accepted. Three of them are now US<br />embassy guards, One in Moscow, one in Beijing and one in Brasilia. According<br />to what we hear from these young Marines, the USA is already looked at as a<br />weak nation, a paper tiger!! Just like back in the bad ol' Jimmy Carter days!<br />rkinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432551832152096206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-88398842223414478702016-05-25T13:15:35.178-07:002016-05-25T13:15:35.178-07:00:):)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80286842475540605472016-05-25T13:15:23.467-07:002016-05-25T13:15:23.467-07:00Thanks Dave!Thanks Dave!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-47221675341168188092016-05-25T13:15:02.618-07:002016-05-25T13:15:02.618-07:00According to something I read as a youth, English ...According to something I read as a youth, English became the <em>lingua franca</em> of these here United States by one vote. German was the runner up.<br /><br />(Not sure if this is for real, I need to look that up. Must have been all those Hessians who deserted during the Revolution. A prolific tribe, I'm sure.)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-28587730939500329112016-05-25T13:05:09.694-07:002016-05-25T13:05:09.694-07:00https://youtu.be/YUYCBfmIcHMhttps://youtu.be/YUYCBfmIcHMDave's Daily Day Dreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17491764990082380190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48098563566141605652016-05-25T12:52:42.458-07:002016-05-25T12:52:42.458-07:00Works for me.Works for me.Dave's Daily Day Dreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17491764990082380190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-54864762963518846192016-05-25T12:19:58.803-07:002016-05-25T12:19:58.803-07:00Most people don't know that the predominant de...Most people don't know that the predominant demographic among white Americans is not British, but German. If the Islamic attacks in this country step up, no matter what the collaborators in the Democratic Criminal Party may say, I fear that we will remember our German roots, and deal with the problem. We Vikings are the same way. I feel a storm is coming over the horizon, and it will be a bad one.SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-34544001107748693752016-05-25T09:40:22.311-07:002016-05-25T09:40:22.311-07:00Could be.Could be.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-54409684417637408292016-05-25T09:39:58.353-07:002016-05-25T09:39:58.353-07:00I started reading that, at lunch. I need to make t...I started reading that, at lunch. I need to make time to read the entire thing. OMG.<br /><br />Something which I have suspected for some time now. I didn't realize it went back that far.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-28047785244529621352016-05-25T09:34:49.587-07:002016-05-25T09:34:49.587-07:00Precisely.Precisely.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24885615649624311042016-05-25T09:34:26.689-07:002016-05-25T09:34:26.689-07:00Yeah, what is "peacetime" actually? Just...Yeah, what is "peacetime" actually? Just because we don't call it war doesn't mean it isn't.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-47471064879231320402016-05-25T09:33:17.013-07:002016-05-25T09:33:17.013-07:00It is vexing.It is vexing.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-42241250119592919102016-05-25T09:12:36.992-07:002016-05-25T09:12:36.992-07:00In the immortal words of Walt Kelly:
"We have...In the immortal words of Walt Kelly:<br />"We have met the enemy and he is us." <br /><br />Not exactly in the context of the post, but...(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-71642529807046115932016-05-25T09:08:39.581-07:002016-05-25T09:08:39.581-07:00Too few of us over here sacrifice anything to supp...Too few of us over here sacrifice anything to support the effort of our best men and women "over there". That will continue until our representatives decide that their unfettered spending is not good for the Nation. They do not know what winning this war looks like. Already there are cries of "no ammo!", "no training", and worse, "no leaders!".<br />These things are true and provable. I am pretty sure, however, that they know exactly what they are doing and their agenda is moving along just fine. <br />Google: “Transcript of Norman Dodd Interview” 1982 A.D. with G. Edward Griffin<br /><br />That's always fun.Dave's Daily Day Dreamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17491764990082380190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-33094990996693455752016-05-25T08:39:20.631-07:002016-05-25T08:39:20.631-07:00It has been said that the U.S. military is at war;...It has been said that the U.S. military is at war; <i>America's</i> at the mall. While that may not be completely true, it's close enough. Too few remember, and too few care. Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-89719756504948819752016-05-25T06:10:02.815-07:002016-05-25T06:10:02.815-07:00Good and timely post.
I remember that awful day i...Good and timely post.<br /><br />I remember that awful day in October. When I get downwind of a gravel mill or concrete works on a damp day the deja vu can be nearly overwhelming. I spent a lot of time in that part of the world in those days. And I got shot at a lot more in "peastime" than in war.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-64459728714806444402016-05-25T05:44:26.929-07:002016-05-25T05:44:26.929-07:00You are correct Sarge, we are very much at war. K...You are correct Sarge, we are very much at war. Kinetically in many parts of the world. A "kinda Cold War" with the influx of unvetted Muslim illegal immigrants. I include in the illegal category those that Barack Hussein Obama is shoving down our throat. By the letter of the law these may be "legal", though they are stabbing at the heart of a nation that has as of yet been unwilling to defend itself against this threat. As you state, "Think "fifth column," it's already in place overseas. Don't think it can't happen here. If people don't care, it can and will happen.". It is happening, though as of yet it doesn't appear to have reached critical mass. When it does, it is going to get very ugly very fast. Not a very positive thought to have rattling around in the mind constantly.Ron Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217389199007968254noreply@blogger.com