tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post6912264834513887935..comments2024-03-29T07:43:51.341-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: The Last Good WarOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-45141193916749461802017-04-27T09:20:00.411-07:002017-04-27T09:20:00.411-07:00I'll have to block out some time to watch that...I'll have to block out some time to watch that. The comments on the video are "entertaining" to say the least.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-9282373684351083142017-04-27T09:10:18.493-07:002017-04-27T09:10:18.493-07:00Heh. Radar. Right. I thought I was reasonably well...Heh. Radar. Right. I thought I was reasonably well read for a layman. Then I saw this video. Enjoy.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTC_RxWN_xoRHT447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-46598908773398282822017-04-27T04:44:51.071-07:002017-04-27T04:44:51.071-07:00Concur Ron. But it will take time.Concur Ron. But it will take time.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-45923050241171145232017-04-27T04:43:28.255-07:002017-04-27T04:43:28.255-07:00Fred Rabo, wow!
I have some reading to do, I had ...Fred Rabo, wow!<br /><br />I have some reading to do, I had no idea about radar in the B-17.<br /><br />I learn something new every day, usually from my readers. Thanks!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-57678329684666538082017-04-27T04:42:47.329-07:002017-04-27T04:42:47.329-07:00The movement by Trump/DeVos to get the Federal Gov...The movement by Trump/DeVos to get the Federal Government out of Education is a good thing. It will be hard to do and will take some time for local authorities to accept the responsibility again. I like the point that someone made about Washington- if they knew the answers then D.C. should have the best public schools in the country.Ron Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217389199007968254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-84926220083578086922017-04-26T20:03:16.659-07:002017-04-26T20:03:16.659-07:00Thank you for the link! "...just Google the n...Thank you for the link! "...just Google the name...". Duh, what a concept. Here I was poring over unit histories and mission logs. Forest for the trees, and all that. My dad was 'lucky' in that an ear infection delayed his departure to England. He flew his first mission January 2, 1945, by which time the odds were greatly improved. One afternoon, while he was visiting the wife and I and kidlets, we got to talking about his missions. At the end of the conversation, he summed it all up in a single word. He called it a "lark". His perspective was of all those who went before him. <br />At that time, we lived in Chico, CA. Lots of Air Corps history in that area. Col. Hub Zemke was just down the road, and BG Chuck Yeager not much further in Nevada City. A partner and I had an electric rebuild shop, and one day a leathery old farmer came in, and we got to talking. His name was Fred Rabo.<br /><br />http://482nd.org/h2x-mickey<br /><br />The second photo down at this link--<br /><br />http://www.447bg.com/aircraft%20gallery1.pdf<br /><br />--of a B-17 going down with the right wing on fire is probably miss identified on that page. I have seen the same photo elsewhere with that ship ID'd as 42-3491, with Major Fred Rabo as pilot, shot down March 6, 1944, near Berlin. Co-pilot was John C. Morgan. Both survived and wound up in Stalag Luft 1, where Hub Zemke was the senior allied officer.RHT447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-61046818155364245672017-04-26T16:16:18.798-07:002017-04-26T16:16:18.798-07:00Absolutely agree on the opening and closing scenes...Absolutely agree on the opening and closing scenes of <em>Saving Private Ryan</em>. I get teary eyed every time I watch that.<br /><br />Well, your Dad was part of that generation, 35 combat missions over Germany is damned impressive. Your Dad definitely "earned this." As Tom Hanks' character implored Ryan.<br /><br />As to the Trolley Missions, there is a lot of information on the internet, just Google the name, but you can start <a href="http://www.jcs-group.com/military/johnmeyer2/missions.html" rel="nofollow"><b>here</b></a>.<br /><br />There are no off the wall questions here when it comes to military history. Thanks for stopping by!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19544841909704297052017-04-26T15:03:40.312-07:002017-04-26T15:03:40.312-07:00+1 to your remarks about 'Band of Brothers'...+1 to your remarks about 'Band of Brothers'. For me, I would also add the beginning and ending of 'Saving Private Ryan' where the elderly Ryan goes to cemetery at Normandy for a last farewell. It always makes me think of my father, although I'm not sure why. His war experience was much different. He was inducted two weeks before the Pearl Harbor attack. He was undergoing training as a medical clerk when they passed around the applications for the Air Corps. He wound up as a B-17 pilot and flew 35 combat missions over Europe with this group---<br /><br />http://www.447bg.com/<br /><br />Yeah. Guess where I get my screen name.<br /><br />If I may, I have an off the wall question. My dad told me that after the German surrender, he flew what I believe were called "Trolley Missions" where they loaded up the ground crews and flew them over German cities at 500ft. I have had no luck trying to find documentation of these missions. Do you have any idea where I might look? Thanks.RHT447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48459895975785632532017-04-26T04:49:48.609-07:002017-04-26T04:49:48.609-07:00Mike - you're probably right.Mike - you're probably right.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-79098183005867606842017-04-26T04:49:24.715-07:002017-04-26T04:49:24.715-07:00ColoComment - Oh dear Lord. (And thanks for the li...ColoComment - Oh dear Lord. (And thanks for the link, I like Stacey Dash.)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67043986385610944642017-04-26T04:47:34.595-07:002017-04-26T04:47:34.595-07:00Thanks Virgil, I'll check that out. Just to be...Thanks Virgil, I'll check that out. Just to be fair.<br /><br />As you might imagine, the Korean War is very important to me personally. I've always been kind of pissed at Acheson for that speech. My father-in-law had to flee for the hills in 1950 so he wouldn't be drafted into the North Korean Army, or worse.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-56850339106421516292017-04-26T00:07:33.015-07:002017-04-26T00:07:33.015-07:00Sarge/ You should read Achesons book "Present...Sarge/ You should read Achesons book "Present at the Creation" (Post WW II, Korean War and the creation of the UN) for a fuller view of the man..virgil xenophonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577165785872035948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-85050221836721504302017-04-25T19:50:20.166-07:002017-04-25T19:50:20.166-07:00Not only do the materials need to be purged, so do...Not only do the materials need to be purged, so do the authors. Unfortunately, we are not talking about a bloodless purge here.Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-56051389025311110672017-04-25T18:54:58.320-07:002017-04-25T18:54:58.320-07:00We would not only have to send the teachers to a c...We would not only have to send the teachers to a conservative "re-education" camp, but also thoroughly purge the materials used in the K-12+ education industry. See here, for an egregious example: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/staceydash/2017/04/wait-theres-communism-book-kids-now/ColoCommentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-66292908356796572992017-04-25T18:16:31.771-07:002017-04-25T18:16:31.771-07:00Yup, good observation Paul. I too abhor the whole ...Yup, good observation Paul. I too abhor the whole 24 hour news thing. Often times, what they're peddling isn't "news."OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-51676771772335282492017-04-25T16:37:20.266-07:002017-04-25T16:37:20.266-07:00Yes, being attacked is traumatic. Then, as now, m...Yes, being attacked is traumatic. Then, as now, most people are more concerned about their day to day lives than about international affairs. And, they didn't have the 24 hour a day news cycle that we enjoy ( all sarcasm included ) today.<br /><br />PLQ Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-51428392004859375212017-04-25T16:05:20.922-07:002017-04-25T16:05:20.922-07:00Ah, sorry I misunderstood.
Being attacked was tra...Ah, sorry I misunderstood.<br /><br />Being attacked was traumatic, with reason or not. I get that.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-36342355534190077532017-04-25T15:22:38.355-07:002017-04-25T15:22:38.355-07:00"The unity after Pearl Harbor had nothing to ... "The unity after Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with the government and everything to do with the fact that we were attacked."<br />I thought that's what I said: " the people of the US felt that we had been attacked for no reason."<br /><br />Paul<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-20892896515076723592017-04-25T14:59:49.500-07:002017-04-25T14:59:49.500-07:00I really can't answer that one way or the othe...I really can't answer that one way or the other. All I know is that my Dad dropped out of high school at 17 to enlist. Many others did the same. And that was in 1945. People do get war weary, no matter how righteous the cause. The unity after Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with the government and everything to do with the fact that we were attacked. On a Sunday. All I know is from my own studies and talking to the men and women who went through it.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-8616946247118604432017-04-25T13:41:02.217-07:002017-04-25T13:41:02.217-07:00Your reply is true, but it doesn't address my ...Your reply is true, but it doesn't address my comment.<br /><br />Paul L. QuandtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-89529530065474326592017-04-25T13:13:29.997-07:002017-04-25T13:13:29.997-07:00Oh, I used to agree with Heinlein's solution, ...Oh, I used to agree with Heinlein's solution, now I have reservations. Have had those for a while as a matter of fact.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-74831270221410522002017-04-25T13:12:26.592-07:002017-04-25T13:12:26.592-07:00I had the same thought Virgil. I look at those guy...I had the same thought Virgil. I look at those guys and hoped they all went home after the war. But I know a lot of them didn't even survive until the 7th of June.<br /><br />Truman did the right thing. Untold numbers would have died, especially among the Japanese civilian population. Which included a lot of Koreans as well. (My in-laws lived in Japan throughout the war.)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19978429430615024212017-04-25T13:10:13.078-07:002017-04-25T13:10:13.078-07:00Well said Andrew.Well said Andrew.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-26214289159061128292017-04-25T13:08:25.258-07:002017-04-25T13:08:25.258-07:00What we were doing to Japan was a direct result of...What we were doing to Japan was a direct result of what Japan was doing in China.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82282997542337126392017-04-25T13:07:25.966-07:002017-04-25T13:07:25.966-07:00Not sure if the teachers are the problem, I blame ...Not sure if the teachers are the problem, I blame the administrators at the K-12 level. College? Yeah, many of the instructors would have to go.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.com