tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post7233466062631218037..comments2024-03-28T12:10:21.394-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Battle of the WabashOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-15152964177734754782018-06-29T04:50:54.653-07:002018-06-29T04:50:54.653-07:00Indeed! Those four regiments still exist.Indeed! Those four regiments still exist.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24635991347536832402018-06-29T04:50:13.090-07:002018-06-29T04:50:13.090-07:00Another great reference, you're on a roll Larr...Another great reference, you're on a roll Larry!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38531440542336294942018-06-29T04:49:31.131-07:002018-06-29T04:49:31.131-07:00I hadn't thought of that Larry, but yes, excel...I hadn't thought of that Larry, but yes, excellent point.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-81344905016468007632018-06-28T23:23:49.260-07:002018-06-28T23:23:49.260-07:00Washington no doubt had vivid memories of Braddock...Washington no doubt had vivid memories of Braddock's defeat on the Monongahela in which he played a key role in organizing a rearguard which allowed the remnants of the rest of the force to disengage. That done despite his not having an official place in the chain of command. BZ! Without his actions, it probably would've been a catastrophe on the same level as Isandlwana.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-4827619185454908672018-06-28T23:17:31.453-07:002018-06-28T23:17:31.453-07:00Just like Varus was ready...Just like Varus was ready...Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38148617458458679322018-06-28T21:17:47.157-07:002018-06-28T21:17:47.157-07:00Most interesting are the long-standing rammificati...Most interesting are the long-standing rammifications...<br />Basically this defeat forced the fledgeling US to create standing army, so loathed by the founding fathers<br />American Legion was root of it, first four regiments.<br />Paweł Kasperekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17636249014878876718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-88286329336419215222018-06-28T12:05:34.198-07:002018-06-28T12:05:34.198-07:00Indeed they did.Indeed they did.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-25783604603024096962018-06-28T10:48:50.274-07:002018-06-28T10:48:50.274-07:00Sounds like the force got wabashed...Sounds like the force got wabashed...a bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07871505359143633270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-57659085845585086562018-06-28T09:41:20.851-07:002018-06-28T09:41:20.851-07:00Those with a permanent list to port damned near al...Those with a permanent list to port damned near always get it wrong. In my own experience that is...<br /><br />Other than <i>No scouts, no fortifications, no group of ready troops, ill-equipped, ill-trained, part of force made up of rabble. Oh, and deep into hostile territory, against a prepared and well-equipped enemy who knew the land, did have scouts, and chose the time (and maybe even the place) for battle.</i> Yeah, St. Clair was totally ready for battle...OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-75298885735291598802018-06-28T09:33:47.860-07:002018-06-28T09:33:47.860-07:00Yep, more history than the History Channel. Gah, ...Yep, more history than the History Channel. Gah, yet another rabbit hole to fall into on the internet. Thanks, George, for making OldAFSarge get off his duff and find this guy.<br /><br />Okay, let's sum up the failures. No scouts, no fortifications, no group of ready troops, ill-equipped, ill-trained, part of force made up of rabble. Oh, and deep into hostile territory, against a prepared and well-equipped enemy who knew the land, did have scouts, and chose the time (and maybe even the place) for battle.<br /><br />Analysis... (whirr, whirrrr, click, whirrrrrrr-ptinng.)<br /><br />Someone actually got out alive? Wow. Maybe not such a defeat after all.<br /><br />And there's something interesting, (replays the video) yep, very interesting. People who tend to lean to port have told me that the 2nd Amendment was what established the Militia as the National Guard. But wait, it was two separate Militia Acts that formed state militias and required 'selective service' registration? Ha. Once again the port-leaners get it wrong in a big, huge, gigantic way.<br />Beansnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-84660192514375384202018-06-28T09:01:42.805-07:002018-06-28T09:01:42.805-07:00From what I've read, St. Clair's force was...From what I've read, St. Clair's force was totally unprepared for the attack. No recon, no sentries posted, it was a complete and total failure of command.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-13567213374892048222018-06-28T08:43:39.688-07:002018-06-28T08:43:39.688-07:00I once read (I can't remember where) a quote f...I once read (I can't remember where) a quote from an assistant to then-president Washington who recalled that the only time he had seen Washington really upset was when he had just received the news of that defeat. Washington had paced around the room, raging at St.Clair, whom he had personally warned to take precautions against a surprise attack. Need I say, it was a surprise attack that caused the defeat?LoFan Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670806965670035017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80264897367654575822018-06-28T08:18:28.169-07:002018-06-28T08:18:28.169-07:00Yeah, seems odd as I don't remember it either....Yeah, seems odd as I don't remember it either.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-5404533578212053822018-06-28T07:41:52.327-07:002018-06-28T07:41:52.327-07:00They didn’t teach about that one in the eleventh g...They didn’t teach about that one in the eleventh grade and I don’t remember Dr. Haight left it out of his lectures in History 1A.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-61589203383214313532018-06-28T04:58:30.140-07:002018-06-28T04:58:30.140-07:00Thanks Nylon12. A most interesting period in our n...Thanks Nylon12. A most interesting period in our nation's history, I need to read up more on it. When I do, you'll probably hear of it too.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67387017139955439852018-06-28T04:46:50.267-07:002018-06-28T04:46:50.267-07:00Interesting post, shout out to George for planting...Interesting post, shout out to George for planting the seed. Had never heard of The Battle of the Wabash, learn something new every day. Nice visual enhancements Sarge.Nylon12noreply@blogger.com