tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post7873482746739341319..comments2024-03-28T09:32:13.767-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Things Which Go Bump On the JetOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-62962122852456250822013-08-02T18:52:22.992-07:002013-08-02T18:52:22.992-07:00I don't recall the bridle hooks on our jets. B...I don't recall the bridle hooks on our jets. But yeah, being near a Phantom when she's got the bit in her teeth is pretty awesome.<br /><br />Pure, raw power.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-39432182794405471262013-08-02T18:50:26.979-07:002013-08-02T18:50:26.979-07:00I have a few. Eventually I'll tell 'em all...I have a few. Eventually I'll tell 'em all.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-35300448114111412982013-08-02T17:57:06.371-07:002013-08-02T17:57:06.371-07:00Great story about my favorite American fighting ma...Great story about my favorite American fighting machine. More please!c w swansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735507642689652780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-81130799131866225812013-08-02T17:54:45.218-07:002013-08-02T17:54:45.218-07:00My only up close and personal story about an F-4 d...My only up close and personal story about an F-4 dates back to 1976 when I was an avionics troubleshooter for VAW-115 aboard the Midway. The cat crew had a good relationship with us, and I got to hook up a VF-161 F-4N for a cat shot. Did the Air Force models still have the hooks on the inboard portion of the wings where the bridle hooked up for the cat? Testing the bridle for security when the bird is at mil power in a rush! (If you watch video of an F-4 cat shot that's where the green shirts on either side do the high kick while hanging on the bridle, then run clear.) You hear the sound through your teeth, and when everyone is clear and they go into burner it feels like a punch in the chest. That much power from just a few feet away is awesome. I wanted to hook up the hold back fitting, which was about 3 feet in front of the exhausts, but never did get the chance. Good Times!Poguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14844435158421387888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80697524545084557602013-08-02T15:46:51.882-07:002013-08-02T15:46:51.882-07:00How true...How true...OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-37497930602183643002013-08-02T15:39:06.152-07:002013-08-02T15:39:06.152-07:00Think every branch has the saying, "Soldier, ...Think every branch has the saying, "Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Airman proof." Always, there was a volunteer out to prove everybody wrong.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-71454911629202859092013-08-02T15:23:18.807-07:002013-08-02T15:23:18.807-07:00Thanks juvat!
And there you have it ladies and ge...Thanks juvat!<br /><br />And there you have it ladies and gentlemen, the testimony of an expert.<br /><br />Speed brake as chaff dispenser, fascinating.<br /><br />I remember painfully well the Carter years. I remember the Reagan years with something approaching unbridled joy.<br /><br />Those were the days...OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-86632596623847083422013-08-02T14:09:48.117-07:002013-08-02T14:09:48.117-07:00Well, I'll take up your challenge for why you ...Well, I'll take up your challenge for why you would want to deploy the speed brake in flight. In flight, the only time I usually deployed it was to slow down enough to deploy the landing gear in preparation for landing. For whatever reason, most maintainers got a little "tetchy" when one of us pilot folks forgot to lower the rolly thingys before placing the jet on the runway, go figger. <br />Some guys would try to sucker an adversary in close then ram the throttles to idle, deploy the speed brake and then pull max g available to try and force an overshoot. It would sometimes work in a 1 v 1 fight, but if tried in a multi v multi fight, almost certainly got you killed by either the guy you were trying to overshoot, or his wingman.<br />The only other time I opened them in flight was to deploy chaff. Prior to the Reagan buildup, when most of the fighter force was upgraded with chaff and IR dispensers, the only chaff capability was to stick cigarette sized boxes of chaff in the speed brake and then deploy them if needed in a fight. Obviously only a one time deal, and I'm not positive it was ever tested to see if it had any effect at all on an incoming missile.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-47172188825882378142013-08-02T13:35:06.308-07:002013-08-02T13:35:06.308-07:00Well, I would stress that I said "not back in...Well, I would stress that I said "not back in my day, not in this country". But then again, I'm sure you could pull up an example of that too.<br /><br />Oh and Buck, next time, please warn me what's at the other end of a link. So I can have my seldom used airsickness bag handy. Even that a$$hat's image makes me nauseous. Literally...OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-57809401178780485422013-08-02T13:31:56.959-07:002013-08-02T13:31:56.959-07:00The first three I respected and avoided when possi...The first three I respected and avoided when possible.<br /><br />Walking through jet blast? Um, no thank you.<br /><br />Inattention can definitely get you killed.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-56122040495834980612013-08-02T13:08:41.063-07:002013-08-02T13:08:41.063-07:00Speedbrakes, intakes, and loaded weapons... The de...Speedbrakes, intakes, and loaded weapons... The deadly triumvirate... And then there were the stupid s!!ts that walked through the jet blast...Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67357034399716156582013-08-02T11:52:34.249-07:002013-08-02T11:52:34.249-07:00Ah, the military environment is chock full o' ...Ah, the military environment is chock full o' hazards to life and limb... and it ain't just on the flight line... I have a few tales about high voltage, bypassed interlocks, and dumb-asses. Still and even, this is a GREAT story!<br /><br />I will, however, take issue with your "And they don't have parades for stupid people" statement.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=989&q=natal+ward&oq=natal+ward&gs_l=img.3..0i24.17017.19813.0.20021.10.9.0.1.1.0.112.544.8j1.9.0....0...1ac.1.23.img..0.10.546.22-bMwV8cLU#safe=off&hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=inaugural+parade+2013&oq=inaugural+parade+2013&gs_l=img.3..0i24.54327.55806.2.56213.5.2.0.3.3.0.53.97.2.2.0....0...1c.1.23.img..0.5.105.c3Eo_6_vrng&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.50165853,d.aWM&fp=2cd570fe97181f&biw=1920&bih=989&imgdii=_" rel="nofollow">They don't?</a>Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319116022465066060noreply@blogger.com