tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post8669003511083612824..comments2024-03-28T02:27:45.688-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: The only time you can have too much gas, is when you're on fire!OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-86497323570839389352016-04-04T21:32:09.135-07:002016-04-04T21:32:09.135-07:00He was.
It was always an adventure when he maneuve...He was.<br />It was always an adventure when he maneuvered the ship to a berth at the pier without the assistance of a tugboat. <br />That, assistance from tugs, was not SOP.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67734437626669487262016-04-04T16:50:32.931-07:002016-04-04T16:50:32.931-07:00Yeah, I'm not sure why we took off from Tyndal...Yeah, I'm not sure why we took off from Tyndall in the first place, other than the storm was coming. But the forecast led us to believe we could reach the back side and be ok. There is a famous sign that hung in one of the squadrons at Davis Monthan that said, "There is no Peace Time training that requires penetration of a Thunderstorm." I always thought that was good advice. I just couldn't follow it all the time.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-91125717501609852872016-04-04T14:32:43.491-07:002016-04-04T14:32:43.491-07:00My first instructor made me repeat, before each fl...My first instructor made me repeat, before each flight, three things of no use to a pilot. Altitude above you, runway behind you, and gas on the ground. In General Aviation there is rarely a pressing need to go right now, except when the sheriff is coming.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-59156415207018597992016-04-04T14:28:26.231-07:002016-04-04T14:28:26.231-07:00Yeah up until he nosed over and started down, it w...Yeah up until he nosed over and started down, it was mostly bad luck and bad forecasts, neither of which is an excuse. But getting us low 20 miles early was bad planning. He forgot that wingmen are always lower on gas than lead. He'd asked for a fuel check about when we left the San Antonio area, but not before we started down. Hindsight being 20/20, we should have asked to stay high for about 3 minutes more. But, being Fighter Pilots......juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-1083203904482866512016-04-04T14:23:40.958-07:002016-04-04T14:23:40.958-07:00Get's boring in the back end especially if you...Get's boring in the back end especially if you're a pilot. It's hard not to be watching, just to see what's going on. Flying in to Sarajevo, the crew chief was in the back of the C-12 and had a laptop with a GPS on it. I ended up sitting beside him watching the approach. It was good for a few minutes of boredom relief. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-69110370564148209842016-04-04T14:20:54.443-07:002016-04-04T14:20:54.443-07:00GROAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!GROAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-13579166356613489322016-04-04T14:12:09.521-07:002016-04-04T14:12:09.521-07:00Ft. Sill, as in Oklahoma. Shoulda been more succi...Ft. Sill, as in Oklahoma. Shoulda been more succinct. regards, again, AlemasterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60847207010128904772016-04-04T14:08:04.760-07:002016-04-04T14:08:04.760-07:00Coming out of DC with a single one star pax and a ...Coming out of DC with a single one star pax and a full bag of gas enroute to Ft. Sill. Piece of cake, unless Departure keeps you low to avoid Dullas traffic. Fuels goes fast down low! On departing the airplane at Sill, the General thanked me for the flight but warned that if I had "tapped those damned fuel gages one more time" he would have made me land. Didn't know he was that interested in cockpit ops! regards, AlemasterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-85481597439915117512016-04-04T13:33:28.807-07:002016-04-04T13:33:28.807-07:00"The rime of the ancient aviator"? Gosh!..."The rime of the ancient aviator"? Gosh! You must be a Coleridge graduate! (Say it real fast!)Mike aka Proofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08931553845065187278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-32946526788103606082016-04-04T13:29:58.962-07:002016-04-04T13:29:58.962-07:00I don't know what it is about poor fuel planni...I don't know what it is about poor fuel planning, but it seems to be a favorite near fatal mistake, and often among people with the hours and position to know better. The "should be good!" school of flight planning. Of course, in a helicopter you have more options when the fuel warning lights come on, but you can still expect to be a popular subject of conversation, possibly for years... Break/break... When we were in Iraq in 2010 we landed at a location called Commando one night under goggles and had icing form while we were on final to the LZ. I had my head out the crew chief window and first we saw snow then clear ice formed incredibly fast. We were low enough that we didn't have a problem with ice on the rotor, but the windscreen looked like someone smeared Vasoline all over it till the windshield deice got a handle on it.Poguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14844435158421387888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-13551097541897130992016-04-04T11:25:25.544-07:002016-04-04T11:25:25.544-07:00Hahaha!
(Well played Juvat!)Hahaha!<br /><br />(Well played Juvat!)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-42343169184236700492016-04-04T10:51:28.175-07:002016-04-04T10:51:28.175-07:00OK, but why did you bring up Old NFO? ;-)OK, but why did you bring up Old NFO? ;-)juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-91771418130207327402016-04-04T10:44:37.140-07:002016-04-04T10:44:37.140-07:00Juvat, I forgot to mention that when I shared this...Juvat, I forgot to mention that when I shared this post to Facebook, the text accompanying the link was:<br /><br /><em>"Your Monday Juvat. The rime of the ancient aviator."</em><br /><br />Sorry, the line was just too good (in my head anyway) to pass up.<br /><br />;)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-65151384144103328952016-04-04T09:37:23.115-07:002016-04-04T09:37:23.115-07:00Partially, but primarily it was because of the eng...Partially, but primarily it was because of the engines. The J-85 was originally designed for the Matador missile, so one time flight. They were very susceptible to FOD. Any appreciable amount of ice going down the intake would damage it.<br /><br />That having been said, the wings couldn't take much ice before they started losing lift and approaching stall. Bleed air would have been helpful (The F-4 had it for both the wings and the canopy), but there was no capability to apply that to the wings in the T-38.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48122390541220067802016-04-04T09:21:45.664-07:002016-04-04T09:21:45.664-07:00Is the icing restriction due to the high wing load...Is the icing restriction due to the high wing loading? I always figured that with bleed air it wasn't much of an issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-54757769063789765512016-04-04T09:03:56.616-07:002016-04-04T09:03:56.616-07:00Was he the CO after earning the nickname?Was he the CO after earning the nickname?juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-57133949216418995112016-04-04T09:00:53.215-07:002016-04-04T09:00:53.215-07:00Which brings to mind a couple of tales of a SWO CO...Which brings to mind a couple of tales of a SWO CO oveshooting the mooring at 32nd Street and earning the nickname, Crash.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38848769384840946292016-04-04T07:51:53.803-07:002016-04-04T07:51:53.803-07:00My pleasure!My pleasure!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-79089429479890011112016-04-04T07:17:55.571-07:002016-04-04T07:17:55.571-07:00Thank you, kind sir!
Thank you, kind sir!<br />SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-86786058111938214082016-04-04T07:07:31.555-07:002016-04-04T07:07:31.555-07:00Distance Measuring Equipment (I think. I always h...Distance Measuring Equipment (I think. I always heard and called it DME.) It was part of the TACAN (Tactical Aid to Navigation). DME provided mileage to the TACAN Station, and the other part of TACAN provided the heading to the station. So, to fly to a station, you would put the direction needle on the nose and when the DME stopped counting down and started back up, you had station passage. (Note, unless you were VERY low, the DME didn't go to zero, as there was some vertical distance from the station).<br /><br />This required a bit of skill because you also had to take into effect the wind. So putting the needle on the nose worked to get you generally headed to the station, then you would watch to see if the needle started drifting one way or the other and adjust the course accordingly.<br /><br />All this, of course, was pre-magic, AKA Inertial Navigation System and GPS. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24455566686321319372016-04-04T06:47:33.281-07:002016-04-04T06:47:33.281-07:00What's DME Precious? We wants to know, aye, ye...What's DME Precious? We wants to know, aye, yes we do!SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-57804371347041434392016-04-04T06:38:01.366-07:002016-04-04T06:38:01.366-07:00All? Certainly the majority.
This post was tri...All? Certainly the majority. <br /><br />This post was triggered by Sarge's picture of snow yesterday. Most folks like snow, also known as Frozen Water. I don't (hence I live in Texas). This event, I think, was a big determinant.<br /><br />I remember flying on the wing of an F-15 when we went through a storm cloud. Lead iced over in the blink of an eye. One second he's light gray, the next he's white. Fortunately, we went out the other side shortly thereafter and it all slewed off. Also, the aircraft was better equipped to deal with it. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-86187228610076830172016-04-04T06:32:03.886-07:002016-04-04T06:32:03.886-07:00I do remember being VERY aware of what was going o...I do remember being VERY aware of what was going on. Just not being able to affect them. <br /><br />I'm fairly certain you're correct about camping.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68302799007034173902016-04-04T06:29:47.969-07:002016-04-04T06:29:47.969-07:00Interestingly, I don't remember anything about...Interestingly, I don't remember anything about him after the incident. Joe went on to make Colonel, saw him at the Pentagon while I was there. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-61741944497094837322016-04-04T06:28:57.495-07:002016-04-04T06:28:57.495-07:00How many MIRs have I read where complacency is top...How many MIRs have I read where complacency is top dog in the list of contributing factors?<br /><br />I remember a flight into Fallon in winter squadron Strike U det, 80 smelly enlisted swine sitting behind a couple of J-52's and palletized cargo in a C-9. Several hours into the flight, with about another hour to go, the ride started to feel wrong. I was well aft and had a window, saw that the wings looked lumpy. Power was way up and we were in a wings level descent. I did the math and did not like the result. Long story short we banged down in front of the numbers in a cloud of shattering ice after the longest straight in in history. I hated riding in C-9's.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.com