tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post2433119962713715225..comments2024-03-28T10:50:29.895-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: PeccaviOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-71384811839578788112015-04-09T18:16:00.849-07:002015-04-09T18:16:00.849-07:00Thanks!Thanks!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-31071946656958736392015-04-09T17:15:48.667-07:002015-04-09T17:15:48.667-07:00A nice story Sarge! A nice story Sarge! Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05720206407574457665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-18229022262015306722015-04-09T13:39:48.232-07:002015-04-09T13:39:48.232-07:00Hahaha. Same here.Hahaha. Same here.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-58694788078464359572015-04-09T13:00:14.324-07:002015-04-09T13:00:14.324-07:00I was virtually certain one, if not both, F's ...I was virtually certain one, if not both, F's stood for Firetruck, just wasn't certain what was in between.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-59529903297209224312015-04-09T10:58:11.304-07:002015-04-09T10:58:11.304-07:00Heh heh, he said firetruck. Heh heh.Heh heh, he said firetruck. Heh heh.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76350760464634278442015-04-09T09:49:41.459-07:002015-04-09T09:49:41.459-07:00I concur Juvat, very well said indeed. The Air For...I concur Juvat, very well said indeed. The Air Force has great institutional sayings. They navy's are a bit more cryptic. In this case, "Ship, Shipmate, Self."<br /><br />Sigh, there was never enough room on the ship to pack both the thesaurus and the thesaurus NATOPS manual.<br /><br />FOF = Firetruck Over Forever, btw.PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-2317628277270427092015-04-09T09:28:10.227-07:002015-04-09T09:28:10.227-07:00Yeah, I'd do it one time.
Just to say I did i...Yeah, I'd do it one time.<br /><br />Just to say I did it.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-21338745051503379782015-04-09T09:19:48.787-07:002015-04-09T09:19:48.787-07:00I enjoyed the troopship as there were many opportu...I enjoyed the troopship as there were many opportunities to mess with the system, and it was an "adventure". Wouldn't want to do it again. Made me appreciate what my father endured going to and coming home from India.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-14273762407264568382015-04-09T08:18:04.535-07:002015-04-09T08:18:04.535-07:00Wow Russ. Yeah, I knew all those guys: Ed, Chuck L...Wow Russ. Yeah, I knew all those guys: Ed, Chuck Larry and Les.<br /><br />Chief Colonna's kid brother? Yeah. awesome assignment.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-65961340212275578862015-04-09T08:13:13.051-07:002015-04-09T08:13:13.051-07:00It does help to have friends in high places.
From...It does help to have friends in high places.<br /><br />From my understanding, in the Navy a detailer is someone from your career field. In the Air Force it's someone who is a personnel / assignment / clerk.<br /><br />Makes a difference I think.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67860293665768508872015-04-09T07:50:02.819-07:002015-04-09T07:50:02.819-07:00I also did get one good assignment from Personnel....I also did get one good assignment from Personnel. When I was due to rotate from Kadena, the Fairy Godmother,<br />who was apparently feeling good that day, put down her knitting and picked my name off the list for a special assignment<br />to Tyndall AFB in Panama City Florida. It was a research project for Westinghouse with a great crew. You will probably<br />remember some of them, Ed Toughlian, Chuck Daily, Larry Bankus and Leslie Hooe.<br /><br />The best member of the crew was a tech rep from Westinghouse by the name of Mike Colonna. Yep, CMsgt Colonna's<br />little brother. We tipped quite a few brews in honor of his big brother who I agree was the best Chief ever!! <br />rkinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432551832152096206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-33011096524440540662015-04-09T07:50:00.923-07:002015-04-09T07:50:00.923-07:00As I approached the end of my four-year enlistment...As I approached the end of my four-year enlistment, this Missouri boy rec'd orders to the enlistment center in Peoria, IL. Granted, it was several hours of driving from where my family lived, but after four years overseas, that's practically backyard duty. I mention this because my detailer (USN-speak for the personnel assignment weinies) was the E-5 (then an E-6) with whom I'd worked on my first assignment. Helps to have friends in high places, etc etc. Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-17222404073972128092015-04-09T07:15:43.253-07:002015-04-09T07:15:43.253-07:00Oh you were Tony, you were.
I have a lot of respe...Oh you were Tony, you were.<br /><br />I have a lot of respect for Combat Comm.<br /><br />Your Gunny sounds like a real mensch.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-81522713405831671142015-04-09T07:12:48.000-07:002015-04-09T07:12:48.000-07:00Probably.
(I'd call it cruel and unusual puni...Probably.<br /><br />(I'd call it cruel and unusual punishment but I'm crazy enough to have enjoyed something like that.)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-2365348920150176902015-04-09T07:09:55.453-07:002015-04-09T07:09:55.453-07:00I like the way you put things Juvat.
I'm doub...I like the way you put things Juvat.<br /><br />I'm doubling your pay!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-4772526314014738482015-04-09T06:31:32.120-07:002015-04-09T06:31:32.120-07:00I grew up at Robbins AFB and Ft Gordon as a milita...I grew up at Robbins AFB and Ft Gordon as a military brat. When I was going from junior high to high school my dad retired and we moved to the farm in South Georgia. I enlisted in the Air Force wanting to see the world. My dream sheet had nothing but European locations. I was teletype/crypto maintenance so there were slots everywhere there was an airfield. <br /><br />My first assignment was McDill in Tampa. I was the only wingnut in my shop and I had a Marine Gunny as a supervisor. It was a joint unit. Obviously I was not in the same Air Force my dad was in. I did my time and took to the "re-training" Gunny gave me - I became his pet project. I was coming up to my 6 year mark and I found I had no hopes of a different assignment as once CENTAF had their hooks in you they never let go. <br /><br />I got out after my first hitch and got away from that Gunny madman. The day after my terminal leave was finished I enlisted in a Combat Comm ANG unit in South Georgia. I had turned in most of my BDU's when I left CENTAF and the Combat Comm wore the pickle uniform with a blue unit ballcap. Fist drill weekend was nothing but orientation. The next month when I showed up the mission had changed as well as our Active duty counterpart and they were giving small group orientation that scheduled the issuing BDU's. I was scheduled for Sunday to receive my new uniforms. All of the full time and a few of the weekend warriors had them on but they were missing the command patches and the unit patch. I was back in CENTAF Comms but on the ANG side. After that weekend the AF blue ball cap with the unit logo would be no longer authorized and we had a new ball cap that was Barney Purple with JCSE enblazend across the front. <br /><br />I went home and pulled out my best set of BDU's, found the obnoxious purple cap, and wore them on Sunday. My blouse had all of my tabs and the JCSE Shield in the correct place. I was a Staff Sergent back then and when I showed up I had a Master Sergent giving me the business about the tabs on my uniform when my old active duty supervisor butted in. He had made Master Gunnery Sergent just prior to me mustering out of AD. Gunney made a comment that at least there was one f**king wingnut that had his uniform squared away and didn't look like a shit bag and maybe there was a feign glimmer of hope that this guard experiment wouldn't fail miserably since they had at least one person that had proper military training.<br /><br />I stayed in the unit for another 7 years and then transfered to a Combat Comm unit near my home in Atlanta where I stayed until I retired. I still believe that I was in a different AF than most other Airmen.tsquaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02737130316088634658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-9364109594417366872015-04-09T06:28:49.142-07:002015-04-09T06:28:49.142-07:00Was it evil personnel types that consigned approxi...Was it evil personnel types that consigned approximately 40 airmen to be transported to Europe on the troopship General Maurice Rose circa 1963? They certainly expressed unkind opinions about those who made the decision.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-39797141771971732772015-04-09T06:28:47.953-07:002015-04-09T06:28:47.953-07:00Can only imagine what FOF might stand for.
We had ...Can only imagine what FOF might stand for.<br />We had a different version of your last two lines in the AF<br />"There are only two kinds of people in the Air Force, Fighter Pilots and Shoe Clerks. Fighter Pilot is an attitude not an AFSC." (Air Force Specialty Code)<br /><br />I knew Shoe Clerks who flew F-15s and Fighter Pilots who repaired Radars and ran Personnel shops. <br /><br />IMHO most of the problems in the AF today are caused by the fact that mostly Shoe Clerks got promoted to General and the Fighter Pilots got passed over and retired. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38571291256885762042015-04-09T06:26:55.342-07:002015-04-09T06:26:55.342-07:00Well in the Air Force one was expected to check on...Well in the Air Force one was expected to check one's personnel file periodically. I did. I erased everything I found which was in pencil.<br /><br />Heh.<br /><br />Concur with your last two statements. For the record, to my knowledge, Mrs Juvat did NOT retire as a general. So she must be cool. (If she had retired at flag rank I'm sure Juvat would have mentioned that.)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3259848639433981052015-04-09T06:06:23.074-07:002015-04-09T06:06:23.074-07:00So apparently no one ever penciled "FOF"...So apparently no one ever penciled "FOF" on the inside cover of your pers file.<br /><br />Two kinds of enlisted personnelmen in the navy, shipmates and bureaucrats.<br /><br />Two kinds of personnel officers. shipmates and future admirals (ruh-roh).PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.com