tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post3102247188010480510..comments2024-03-28T22:08:48.577-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: NATO - Part IOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-74970585497425222112017-06-22T10:35:07.066-07:002017-06-22T10:35:07.066-07:00I'd be willing to bet that there is still a lo...I'd be willing to bet that there is still a lot of unexploded ordnance out in those woods.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-11909578647437439992017-06-22T10:10:51.953-07:002017-06-22T10:10:51.953-07:00Ah, the Hürtgenwald. The Army circa 1960s, would t...Ah, the Hürtgenwald. The Army circa 1960s, would take some of us Combat Engineers there with mine detectors to see what we could find. Not fun!<br /><br />After my return had interesting conversations with my oldest uncle who passed through the area in 1944-45.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-16417611882189842142017-06-22T09:09:08.614-07:002017-06-22T09:09:08.614-07:00True.
Er, I mean relative...True.<br /><br />Er, I mean relative...OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-25017574971504737982017-06-22T08:41:21.734-07:002017-06-22T08:41:21.734-07:00Most excellent!Most excellent!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-39559149775186252642017-06-22T08:40:46.172-07:002017-06-22T08:40:46.172-07:00Yeah, that would be hard to take!Yeah, that would be hard to take!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-30505082799600622632017-06-22T08:37:16.004-07:002017-06-22T08:37:16.004-07:00Underway everything was relative. Underway everything was relative. (not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-74010373149796643772017-06-22T06:27:53.052-07:002017-06-22T06:27:53.052-07:00I'm just glad you got to go. The highlight of ...I'm just glad you got to go. The highlight of a good career!!<br />I can't complain though. My last years were at Tyndall AFB. Being<br />assigned to Air Defense Command with only 6 planes on the white<br />beaches of Florida was awesome.rkinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432551832152096206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-15498319349922522602017-06-22T01:53:57.409-07:002017-06-22T01:53:57.409-07:00I watched Das Boot on Tuesday!I watched Das Boot on Tuesday!SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-32809270237470896122017-06-21T20:58:52.999-07:002017-06-21T20:58:52.999-07:00Glad you noticed that, I will (POCIR) cover that i...Glad you noticed that, I will (POCIR) cover that in a later post in the series.<br /><br />I too find it oddly pleasing. It's the symmetry that's in it, methinks.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-1419232366039261842017-06-21T20:57:19.019-07:002017-06-21T20:57:19.019-07:00Unloaded though, the suckers could climb like home...Unloaded though, the suckers could climb like home sick angels!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-2827271873206052872017-06-21T20:20:08.475-07:002017-06-21T20:20:08.475-07:00Well, I never rode on a 141, only fixed them. The...Well, I never rode on a 141, only fixed them. The only USAF aircraft that I flew on ( aside from the Survival School's U-6s [ ? ] ), were KC-135s. I can believe that the 141 was not the most comfortable ride around. If they were, then flag officers would ride on them. I don't remember that ever happening.<br /><br />Paul<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48997219117867451702017-06-21T20:17:22.178-07:002017-06-21T20:17:22.178-07:00Why did I never notice the NATO/OTAN thing? The fa...Why did I never notice the NATO/OTAN thing? The fact that the acronym is backwards in several languages is clever and odd in a way that pleases me.a bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07871505359143633270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-72464428811677303232017-06-21T17:47:22.975-07:002017-06-21T17:47:22.975-07:00Actually had the pax seats, the only time I flew o...Actually had the pax seats, the only time I flew on a 141 where I wasn't caressed by the sheer comfort of the webbed troop seats.<br /><br />And now that I think about it, that was my very first ride on a Starlifter. It was pretty cool and awesome for the first 15 minutes or so, you know the whole "I'm actually flying on a real live Air Force aircraft." Had a few more after that, usually short hops between Kadena and Kunsan. Which was fairly rare because usually it was a 130 on that route.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-9663228516219819862017-06-21T17:44:03.301-07:002017-06-21T17:44:03.301-07:00:):)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-7515705892402162862017-06-21T16:55:42.988-07:002017-06-21T16:55:42.988-07:00Thanks for the post. Eagerly awaiting the follow ...Thanks for the post. Eagerly awaiting the follow ons.<br /><br />PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-59294896569274832982017-06-21T16:49:27.659-07:002017-06-21T16:49:27.659-07:00Did that 141 have the pax seats or the regular tro...Did that 141 have the pax seats or the regular troop seats?<br /><br />Paul L. QuandtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-7141459884870231762017-06-21T14:12:08.624-07:002017-06-21T14:12:08.624-07:00:):)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-34689783028154492692017-06-21T13:45:39.691-07:002017-06-21T13:45:39.691-07:00Nine years old and in charge of Belgium. You gave ...Nine years old and in charge of Belgium. You gave your kids great gifts! 😃PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-81014883065916391072017-06-21T12:39:34.564-07:002017-06-21T12:39:34.564-07:00Well I guess that leaves out a cruise as well!Well I guess that leaves out a cruise as well!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-46655654472107953562017-06-21T11:45:33.354-07:002017-06-21T11:45:33.354-07:00I applied for Germany many times but the fairy god...I applied for Germany many times but the fairy godmother department never saw fit to award me with that assignment. My oldest son applied for Germany while he was in basic and his first assignment was to Landstuhl and spent 5 years stationed there. When he was discharged, he remained there as he had married a German lady and other than a two year stint at Ft Monmouth New Jersey, lives there still.<br /><br />I would love to go visit but my Missus hates flying and since she also can't swim, refuses to take any flight over the ocean. Any argument I make that she would not need any swimming skills if the plane was to go down over the ocean does not seem to help! ;)rkinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05432551832152096206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68265492957693676102017-06-21T10:55:28.178-07:002017-06-21T10:55:28.178-07:00MAC was a PITA back in the day. A whole lotta shoe...MAC was a PITA back in the day. A whole lotta shoe clerks in that command.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-1431220206668183232017-06-21T10:54:21.181-07:002017-06-21T10:54:21.181-07:00That route wasn't all that fun on a C-141 eith...That route wasn't all that fun on a C-141 either. It was like flying in someone's basement.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67349331691302041122017-06-21T10:53:24.227-07:002017-06-21T10:53:24.227-07:00Well, it was pretty much all relative right?Well, it was pretty much all relative right?OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-87576559850016611572017-06-21T10:37:40.759-07:002017-06-21T10:37:40.759-07:00Flying in 141s was not much fun either. One time ...Flying in 141s was not much fun either. One time our RC-135 crew was rotating back to Offutt from Mildenhall, but the bird was staying behind for the new crew. As an experiment, it was decided that instead of catching a ride back on a KC-135 (and remaining in the arms of SAC), we were placed into the clutches of MAC. No flight suits permitted, protestations that we were air crew fell on deaf ears, and we had to dig some Class A's out of the flight bags. The routing was to Charleston AFB and we could not believe how slow and cold and noisy that 141 was. After nearly ten hours to Charleston we had to go across the base to the civilian terminal to catch a commercial flight to ATL, thence to MCI, thence to OMA. That was a long journey, with little logic to it, never to be repeated. Never had much fondness for MAC.Rivetjointnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48306753598070994232017-06-21T09:45:31.317-07:002017-06-21T09:45:31.317-07:00I understood Navy bells only in relation to the be...I understood Navy bells only in relation to the beginning and end of watch, and even that was a vicarious situation. (not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.com