tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post3520610167316115007..comments2024-03-18T14:21:30.932-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Despicable!OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24277917246252677792018-05-16T09:18:49.426-07:002018-05-16T09:18:49.426-07:00ThanksThanksjuvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-64415671237884670002018-05-15T10:30:46.132-07:002018-05-15T10:30:46.132-07:00I think the nuclear deterrent only works because w...I think the nuclear deterrent only works because we had to use them in Japan, which showed the world just how deadly they are. Tunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-12200027771098377932018-05-14T23:21:51.078-07:002018-05-14T23:21:51.078-07:00Concur.Concur.HMS Defianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024721130102173694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-39084048520880040292018-05-14T21:18:27.064-07:002018-05-14T21:18:27.064-07:00True, sadly true.True, sadly true.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-86534080779779243092018-05-14T20:34:46.473-07:002018-05-14T20:34:46.473-07:00"Or both sides of their asses. (Looking at yo..."Or both sides of their asses. (Looking at you, Feinstein.)"<br /><br />Well, of course. They have to talk from there because that's where their heads are located.<br /><br />Paul<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82565864368505740632018-05-14T19:39:58.245-07:002018-05-14T19:39:58.245-07:00The older I get the more I understand the mind-set...The older I get the more I understand the mind-set of Vlad Tepes.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-8616341765589085622018-05-14T19:38:08.274-07:002018-05-14T19:38:08.274-07:00I understand the use of deadly chemicals in WWI. ...I understand the use of deadly chemicals in WWI. Anything to attempt to break the trench warfare. But deadly chemicals? No. That's pretty much draw the line time. Less-than-lethal, like puke gas or CS or irritating smoke, they have their useful places.<br /><br />Well, again, nukes have their limited use. To stop us from spending soldiers like crazy, as in the potential invasion of Japan in WWII, I am okay with that. For a surgical strike against a facility? I think we have better non-nuke weapons available, but I admit I don't know all about our current capabilities (non-secret or secret.) As a detterant against the mad Mullahs? Dunno, depends on what they do with theirs, first. But I have a feeling a certain nation, now in the news, will probably act first and most fulsomely, in a non-nuke way (but the after-effects may end up with a dirty-bomb after-effect, no matter what weapons are used.)Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-71694862815426431072018-05-14T18:48:53.063-07:002018-05-14T18:48:53.063-07:00I can't agree with gas and chemical weapons. ...I can't agree with gas and chemical weapons. Too persistent, hard to control, and indiscriminate, and the effects are long lasting, even years. Nukes, yes as a deterrent, but their use also has long-lasting effects on civilian populations and nature- not worth it. I expect we'll never use them again though. Iran? Not so sure.<br /> Tunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3389427404694142802018-05-14T16:17:14.809-07:002018-05-14T16:17:14.809-07:00"...which apparently Big Government is to ful...<i>"...which apparently Big Government is to full of..."</i><br /><br />and/or created.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-43931503785211807882018-05-14T16:08:09.691-07:002018-05-14T16:08:09.691-07:00Waterboarded? Hah, let's see what the things ...Waterboarded? Hah, let's see what the things my brothers did to me could be classified as, those sadistic bastards...<br /><br />Yep. Brennan. Both sides of their mouths. Or both sides of their asses. (Looking at you, Feinstein.)Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80561853237757183782018-05-14T16:05:16.780-07:002018-05-14T16:05:16.780-07:00It's due to us here all being responsible ADUL...It's due to us here all being responsible ADULTS, not children, which apparently Big Government is too full of.<br /><br />The same sort of responsibility that allows us to have a host of stories and information that we'll never talk about because it's either none of our business or classified or both.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-1940519146770169122018-05-14T16:02:18.867-07:002018-05-14T16:02:18.867-07:00Wish the other side behaved using the same rules a...Wish the other side behaved using the same rules as were taught to us all.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-58384171691962940432018-05-14T16:00:41.032-07:002018-05-14T16:00:41.032-07:00Having been waterboarded in SERE, it IS NOT TORTUR...Having been waterboarded in SERE, it IS NOT TORTURE. And there IS a time and place for 'enhanced' techniques. Sadly, Haspel is being raked over the coals for something she actually had no control over, unlike Brennan, who was confirmed by those same Dems... sighOld NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-30602098546462863552018-05-14T14:38:52.177-07:002018-05-14T14:38:52.177-07:00I can't make you tell me what I need to know t...I can't make you tell me what I need to know to save my countrymen. But I can make you wish you had. And once I start, I don't stop until I am convinced you're telling the truth. Not personal, business.Chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-31773950635699804062018-05-14T14:22:30.136-07:002018-05-14T14:22:30.136-07:00Working in a progressive-heavy environment, I can ...Working in a progressive-heavy environment, I can attest to the last paragraph. Spikes would be too good I'm afraid.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48527836214154235542018-05-14T13:40:38.926-07:002018-05-14T13:40:38.926-07:00As suspected, you and I are pretty much in agreeme...As suspected, you and I are pretty much in agreement. As, apparently but not surprisingly are the rest of commenters at this point.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-34012261642129234532018-05-14T13:25:24.110-07:002018-05-14T13:25:24.110-07:00I thought about embedding one of those cartoons, b...I thought about embedding one of those cartoons, but, on advice of counsel, decided against it.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3828389526013338772018-05-14T13:23:15.821-07:002018-05-14T13:23:15.821-07:00Yep. Exactly.Yep. Exactly.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-64266779364670527762018-05-14T12:37:41.227-07:002018-05-14T12:37:41.227-07:00I know this is wildly off topic, but when I read t...I know this is wildly off topic, but when I read the headline, "Despicable!", immediately what I heard in my head was Daffy Duck saying it. (It was a favorite line of his.) You may now return to your regularly scheduled relevant discussions.Mike aka Proofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08931553845065187278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-65347821834530061532018-05-14T11:52:06.499-07:002018-05-14T11:52:06.499-07:00As to Senator Harris, who supports infanticide, qu...As to Senator Harris, who supports infanticide, questioning a candidate over Enhanced Interrogation Techniques (which were not commonly used) is wrong. Not giving the candidate the ability to answer fully is reprehensible. The cult of Ba'al is strong in Senator Harris. Enough said about that whole situation.<br /><br /><br />On to Senator McCain. What things he has done to the detriment of this nation as a POW he will soon be answering to a higher moral authority than the court of man. His actions and pettiness as a polititian? Well, our noble host's blog space couldn't hold all the negativity towards Arizona's senior senator that said senator richly deserves. (His treatment of Governor Palin during and after the 2008 election was and is reprehensible. She's the only reason he got as many votes as he did, from what I feel.)<br /><br />On the other hand, the leaking of a private comment from some random White House worker is truly despicable. What is said off the record, as people vent their emotions, should not be blabbed to a hostile media for all to hear. Those who leak every damned little thing are scum of the largest variety, pandering to the media whores for favors. Spikes on the WH Lawn are almost good enough for those bottom-feeders, almost (but I can fantasize, can't I?)Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38523837749683764042018-05-14T11:51:36.804-07:002018-05-14T11:51:36.804-07:00I feel the same way about torture as I feel about ...I feel the same way about torture as I feel about snipers, mines (land or sea, and air if you count barrage balloons,) poison gas, or nuclear weapons. Despicable, I would prefer not to use those methods of war, but... dammit, sometimes you really do have to resort to extraordinary measures, unfortunately.<br /><br />But this world isn't moral, and is rather despicable. The more despicable, the more extraordinary the measures taken to even the playing field. So, I'll allow snipers and landmines in warfare. Seamines (and airmines) in the appropriate situations as required (still don't like them, but they are useful, like landmines, for area denial purposes.)<br /><br />Nukes, gas and torture? Their best use is as a deterrent. "You want to play dirty? We can play dirty better than you can play dirty." The threat, which must be backed up by use as needed.<br /><br />Are there uses for gas - toxic and non-toxic? Yes. But I'd prefer us to stick with less-lethal gasses (which, fortunately, is national policy.) <br /><br />Are there uses for nukes? Yes, most emphatically yes. It got us out of a very bad situation at the end of WWII. And the threat of them helped keep the Cold War mostly cold. And the War on Terror mostly cold (what, you don't think that there are people who deal with nuclear weapons who haven't floated the horrible idea of brightening the skys above two of some religion's most important shrines? And then recoiled from said idea? (See, there's that moral boundary that keeps us, well, us.)<br /><br />Torture is a horrible moral dilemma. Does it work? Y-yes, to a degree. Does the threat work? Y-yes, to a degree. Is there a slippery slope? Oh, yes, most definitely. But the information gained must be verified, as, yes, people lie to get out of torture. Do I want it to become common-place? Heck, NO! (like use of nukes, gas, landmines...) But there are instances where physical or mental torture is... appropriate. <br /><br />From all the protocols I've read about, so far we, as a nation, have stayed on the morally correct side of torture when we've tortured for information. And we've gotten real, actionable intelligence, which was verified by other means, which lead to actual real operations for the benefit of us and the world. From what I've read, the intelligence agencies have been careful to the extend and to the techniques of torture, and to the persons torture is used upon. <br /><br />Torture for punishment's sake only? No. Heck no. Most definitely a big friggin NO! That would make us equal to the ChiComms, North Viet-Nam, Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, Turkey, Soviet Russia, Communist Cuba... Those of our nation that have tortured for revenge (or fun, sick f$^ks) should, and have, been punished accordingly (Abu Grabe, being the most famous of stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons and getting their asses handed to them accordingly.)<br />Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-85410848275561501062018-05-14T11:27:43.671-07:002018-05-14T11:27:43.671-07:00While I may not agree with his less-than conservat...While I may not agree with his less-than conservative politics, disparaging his service and sacrifice is hitting way below the belt, especially considering his health. Tunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-33983533688977483462018-05-14T11:16:29.413-07:002018-05-14T11:16:29.413-07:00ThanksThanksjuvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3883063739855966572018-05-14T11:16:18.479-07:002018-05-14T11:16:18.479-07:00Agreed.Agreed.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80576498385193420142018-05-14T11:15:40.614-07:002018-05-14T11:15:40.614-07:00For some reason, your comment got me to thinking a...For some reason, your comment got me to thinking about <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojPVOhHhwnk" rel="nofollow">this</a>. Be nice until it's time to "not be nice".juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.com