tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post4102316073479727459..comments2024-03-29T04:28:54.043-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: On The HorizonOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-17933423262100083282017-12-01T05:08:13.490-08:002017-12-01T05:08:13.490-08:00As to keel-hauling, or keel-raking, nah, just shoo...As to keel-hauling, or keel-raking, nah, just shoot 'em.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68803811194897260012017-12-01T05:07:21.755-08:002017-12-01T05:07:21.755-08:00:):)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-30503444563964410722017-12-01T05:07:03.018-08:002017-12-01T05:07:03.018-08:00All very fine ideas. I like the look of the Fridtj...All very fine ideas. I like the look of the Fridtjof-Nansens.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-85209624880420062012017-12-01T05:03:24.530-08:002017-12-01T05:03:24.530-08:00The F-35 is an overpriced concept bird. Lots of st...The F-35 is an overpriced concept bird. Lots of stuff still not working, has a tendency to hurt the pilot during a cat shot. It is far too expensive, those associated with that contract are incompetents. Every "man" jack.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-20129765369338549092017-11-30T23:30:45.386-08:002017-11-30T23:30:45.386-08:00How do they fudge the sim results? From what I he...How do they fudge the sim results? From what I hear, every shot from an LCS weapon is a 'golden bullet' and every hit from an enemy is downgraded in damage. And the radar capabilities were set to what they wanted them to be, not what they actually are. And they used modules that are still very much 'vaporware' to achieve any significant hit.<br /><br />Kinda like playing World of Warships and spending actual money to buy all the modules and bonus features and then playing against the computer. Yes, you might lose, but...<br /><br />As to what Tuna postulated, I have also heard about the Brit's new Frigate, and the South Korean's Frigate. Never happen, but the National Security Cutter looks equally capable and, surprise, actually built by real yards in the good old USA, and, as I said before, they have been rode hard by the Coasties and found to meet or exceed their requirements, so that's a point in favor.<br /><br />Anything but a thin aluminum-hulled wondership. Something that can actually survive the North Atlantic, or handle going around either of the two Capes, or handle a Pacific typhoon. Steel, real steel. <br /><br />If you gotta use aluminum, then spec out aluminum plate the same weight as decent steel plate, which would provide the added feature of stiffening the hull.<br /><br />And, SCOTTtheBADGER, just tow them behind a Nimitz and then push the carrier to full, absolute power. That ought to beat the snot out of the buggers. Or, duct tape them to a catapult shoe and fire away..Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-81170686357726563292017-11-30T23:12:15.808-08:002017-11-30T23:12:15.808-08:00There were issues with the radar and gun computers...There were issues with the radar and gun computers handshaking and making sense on the LCS boats, maybe they got it working, but 57mm? Meh, a damned Bradley with its 25mm chain gun could kill it. Damned system doesn't even have a manual control from what I hear.<br /><br />From what I've heard, at least the F-35 has a chance to fully function, even the Marine version. The LCS (either class, trihull or single hull) will suck until the day they are struck, barring some random miracle happening like sci-fi elves coming from Planet In-Furk fixing the damned things, then they'll be just miserable excuses for real fighting ships.<br /><br />Or, at least, that's what I think.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-52499777703929202292017-11-30T21:44:53.212-08:002017-11-30T21:44:53.212-08:00In Re keelhauling, I would rather see him keelrake...In Re keelhauling, I would rather see him keelraked. Keelhauling is port to starboard, keelraking is bow to stern. On a NIMITZ, please. I would rather the raking be under the JARHE VIKING, but she, alas, was scrapped. SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-42902879015545562442017-11-30T21:42:25.988-08:002017-11-30T21:42:25.988-08:00I fully endorse buying NANSENS. Call them DEs, an...I fully endorse buying NANSENS. Call them DEs, and have them be the JOHN C BUTLER class! Name one SAMUEL B ROBERTS, of course!SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-75126589471653285542017-11-30T21:25:12.803-08:002017-11-30T21:25:12.803-08:00I'll try to help reduce the reruns.I'll try to help reduce the reruns.Tunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76024712491769946782017-11-30T21:23:37.965-08:002017-11-30T21:23:37.965-08:00Congress would never allow it, but I'd rather ...Congress would never allow it, but I'd rather we just bought something off the shelf. I learned about these when I visited Norway last Spring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fridtjof_Nansen-class_frigateTunahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04930237104692982421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-82068202471372788322017-11-30T18:21:19.366-08:002017-11-30T18:21:19.366-08:00The software I was referring to was on the F-35, n...The software I was referring to was on the F-35, no, really.<br /><br />As to the handrails, yup, get a hacksaw.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-73695401734434757642017-11-30T18:20:18.776-08:002017-11-30T18:20:18.776-08:00She's not a warship, they're still scrambl...She's not a warship, they're still scrambling to make warfare modules.<br /><br />How do they fudge the parameters, enemy DD out of ammo and out of fuel? DITW with a blind captain?<br /><br />I'd like to be a fly on that wall.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-66826578641799033922017-11-30T17:54:29.553-08:002017-11-30T17:54:29.553-08:00Well, no. But the Navy has put out a request for ...Well, no. But the Navy has put out a request for proposals, so hopefully some sense (not listening to that Lazarus guy on CmdrSalamander's blog, for starters) will win out.<br /><br />Every war-game simulation between LCS groups and 1 enemy destroyer results in LCS loss except when the parameters are fudged so bad even a dem poll worker would blush.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-62237627709613806742017-11-30T17:50:58.959-08:002017-11-30T17:50:58.959-08:00Software or not, still can't fire the 57mm on ...Software or not, still can't fire the 57mm on the horizontal with the handrail up. Which means no self defense against small boats other than some 7.62mm machine guns.<br /><br />I would just cut 6" off the handrail stanchions and call it good. Or keep a supply of extras in the hold if one or more got accidentally blown away.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-91218144331962083322017-11-30T17:03:29.264-08:002017-11-30T17:03:29.264-08:00Bastids.Bastids.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-84138817571594383992017-11-30T17:03:11.030-08:002017-11-30T17:03:11.030-08:00The LCS Cabal just won't give up, will they?The LCS Cabal just won't give up, will they?OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-38560254001655218812017-11-30T17:02:29.136-08:002017-11-30T17:02:29.136-08:00I've heard that the software for the gun syste...I've heard that the software for the gun system wasn't ready. Might be an old report.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-72302181209591006202017-11-30T14:35:37.127-08:002017-11-30T14:35:37.127-08:00Good anti-fouling protection took all the fun out ...Good anti-fouling protection took all the fun out of keelhauling. Damned scientists, ruining everything.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-18222613617577361652017-11-30T14:33:50.111-08:002017-11-30T14:33:50.111-08:00Problem is the LCS Cabal is pushing a lengthened L...Problem is the LCS Cabal is pushing a lengthened LCS as a 'frigate' candidate. I would much prefer the National Security Cutter that the Coasties are fielding. The LCS system is at it's max in growth. The NSC has plenty room to grow, especially if they put in an additional hull section.<br /><br />And the NSC Frigate candidate is cheaper, too, and proven (the Coasties have been beating the hell out of theirs, with no significant breakage, unlike the LCSs that are basically harbor queens.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-5965754482733769722017-11-30T14:29:38.076-08:002017-11-30T14:29:38.076-08:00At least it can shoot its gun. The LCS (both clas...At least it can shoot its gun. The LCS (both classes) have to have a working party remove the front handrail before they can get their 2" gun in action.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-77825171673301051992017-11-30T13:06:34.974-08:002017-11-30T13:06:34.974-08:00Ah Juvat, ever the kind and gentle soul.
;)Ah Juvat, ever the kind and gentle soul.<br /><br />;)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68043821790611542852017-11-30T13:05:30.480-08:002017-11-30T13:05:30.480-08:00Can't you drag them halfway, then drag them ba...Can't you drag them halfway, then drag them back to the bow? Then repeat as necessary?<br /><br />But....There I am, being charitable again.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-43964061972190929162017-11-30T13:04:45.639-08:002017-11-30T13:04:45.639-08:00Nylon12 - Made me chuckle you did "Ya..... I&...Nylon12 - Made me chuckle you did <em>"Ya..... I'm a him"</em>.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-79673994345856729452017-11-30T13:03:53.529-08:002017-11-30T13:03:53.529-08:00Paul - Concur.Paul - Concur.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-36811351643691203092017-11-30T13:03:13.402-08:002017-11-30T13:03:13.402-08:00Yup. Word on the pier is that the Navy wants a new...Yup. Word on the pier is that the Navy wants a new frigate. An actual frigate, not that "thing" masquerading as a warship.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.com