tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post4819348892423382775..comments2024-03-28T13:23:25.055-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: TargetsOldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-41849977793243570372016-07-22T08:16:41.120-07:002016-07-22T08:16:41.120-07:00The golden ratio isn't the end-all-be-all of a...The golden ratio isn't the end-all-be-all of aesthetics now is it? As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.<br /><br />The Eagle is sublime...OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60746715892058575082016-07-22T07:55:48.415-07:002016-07-22T07:55:48.415-07:00I'm bored, waiting for a call back from tech s...I'm bored, waiting for a call back from tech support on a stop work problem. The golden ratio is 1.618.... and that is calculated by taking adding the two dimensions together and dividing that by the longer dimension. The closer it is to 1.618... the better. <br />The E model is 63' long and 38.375' wide. 101.375/63=1.609... I knew it was a good looking airplane!<br /><br />Just because I'm really bored. The D model came in at 1.667, so farther away.<br /><br />The Eagle is 1.670. Hmmm, blows the heck out of that golden ratio theory!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-25927244701051091192016-07-22T07:01:01.206-07:002016-07-22T07:01:01.206-07:00Hhmm...
That would be interesting. Anyone out the...Hhmm...<br /><br />That would be interesting. Anyone out there with mad math skills?OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-15189838663394695582016-07-21T19:57:01.388-07:002016-07-21T19:57:01.388-07:00It would be interesting to see if th E model fit c...It would be interesting to see if th E model fit closer with the golden ratio than the short nose models. I'd just looked better to me.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-59663109276952969252016-07-21T19:53:25.307-07:002016-07-21T19:53:25.307-07:00That would be interesting to read. One would think...That would be interesting to read. One would think the faster you went, the more friction and thus heat was on the canopy. I do remember an RTB to Cope Thunder in the F-4D, low on gas so high altitude til last minute, idle descent to initial. Didn't add power til starting the final turn. Cockpits completely fogged over. Reached down and flipped on the rain removal switch. Vented engine bleed air (aka very hot) over the canopy. About 3 seconds of anal puckering followed by sighs of relief.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-33557647766992703212016-07-21T18:35:37.072-07:002016-07-21T18:35:37.072-07:00I had no problem with any of the Phantoms. I too t...I had no problem with any of the Phantoms. I too thought the "E" was a thing of grace, elegance, and deadly beauty.<br /><br />As to the Eagle, truly a beauty. In every way.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-73893623503375409422016-07-21T17:22:07.459-07:002016-07-21T17:22:07.459-07:00"led" sigh, Alemaster"led" sigh, AlemasterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48089445958065781772016-07-21T17:20:40.928-07:002016-07-21T17:20:40.928-07:00I've read that the MiG-15 had a poor pressuriz...I've read that the MiG-15 had a poor pressurization system that caused canopy fogging during high speed (read that "run away, run away") descents that lead to additional "targeting." Can't remember which F-86 pilot's book from which that tidbit came. FWIW, IMHO, the Dora just "looks right." Great post altogether. regards, Alemaster Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-5487207491292517542016-07-21T16:58:36.668-07:002016-07-21T16:58:36.668-07:00Thanks, Yes, they could!Thanks, Yes, they could!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-55842730243813693082016-07-21T16:57:39.466-07:002016-07-21T16:57:39.466-07:00Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (or in this c...Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (or in this case, the pilot). I thought the F-4E was a very good looking fighter. Looked like what it did, a whole lot of different things pretty well. The Eagle, well, that was truly a beautiful aircraft!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3517003508495327552016-07-21T16:07:17.567-07:002016-07-21T16:07:17.567-07:00Great post! The French could use a little "Mo...Great post! The French could use a little "Mon coeur est en chômage" these days.Mike aka Proofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08931553845065187278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-53609948421170671612016-07-21T15:28:41.276-07:002016-07-21T15:28:41.276-07:00Yes, still doing the "jury of one's peers...Yes, still doing the "jury of one's peers" thing. But school is out until Monday.<br /><br />Most excellent post Juvat.<br /><br />Love the FW-190, she ain't pretty but she packs a punch.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19210392721933098812016-07-21T13:46:54.427-07:002016-07-21T13:46:54.427-07:00Yes they do. A special one. More to follow.Yes they do. A special one. More to follow.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-6069024263056436282016-07-21T13:09:22.815-07:002016-07-21T13:09:22.815-07:00juvat:
Thanks for a great post and pictures. Do ...juvat:<br /><br />Thanks for a great post and pictures. Do you know if they have a C-141B there?<br /><br />Paul L. QuandtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-63358410859013352982016-07-21T13:04:28.470-07:002016-07-21T13:04:28.470-07:00Did not know that about the FW. That would probab...Did not know that about the FW. That would probably explain why there was an engine block under the opposite wing. I'll include a picture of it on the next installment.<br /><br />Thanks.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68861967350360068002016-07-21T11:17:44.748-07:002016-07-21T11:17:44.748-07:00One of my first models was a FW190A, too. One reas...One of my first models was a FW190A, too. One reason this one looks odd is that the D models swapped out the radial engine for an inline one, thus making the already long nose even longer (about an extra meter longer, counting the lengthened tail section as well). They look similar-but-different-enough to give pause.<br /><br />My very first kit, a gift, was a F86, but the first one I think I bought for myself was a Do.335. Talk about odd ducks.a bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07871505359143633270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-22064610190989020182016-07-21T10:36:46.591-07:002016-07-21T10:36:46.591-07:00Murph,
I do have a couple of pictures I took just ...Murph,<br />I do have a couple of pictures I took just for you of riveted shut boarding ladders. I figured that was a pretty good indicator that you'd visited.<br />BTW, if you ever run across the aforementioned blogger, could you ask him if he took any pictures?juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-46856793404405741202016-07-21T10:34:21.244-07:002016-07-21T10:34:21.244-07:00My son loaned me his High Dollar camera which, obv...My son loaned me his High Dollar camera which, obviously, didn't have much trouble. I suspect my trusty $50 Nikon would have had issues. But, holy smokes, that camera burned through storage. I had a 64Gb SD card and had to copy the pictures to my tablet and erase it every night. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-65527929032879845452016-07-21T10:30:07.238-07:002016-07-21T10:30:07.238-07:00I'll bet that was pretty cool. One of the pla...I'll bet that was pretty cool. One of the places they do actually let you climb on and into the aircraft is an F-104 (although I did notice a sign saying "except Murph"). I was sitting in it when a father and his HS freshman son came up. I started to climb out, but they told me to stay and asked me if I knew anything about the aircraft. I related a couple of short stories (yes, I can be brief). The son started to become engaged and asked me questions about flying fighters and what did he need to do to get into pilot training. We probably spent 15 minutes talking. A docent walked up as I was walking away, thanked me and said that happens to visiting vets all the time. <br /><br />As I said, cool museum.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-42772183350243373582016-07-21T10:24:35.655-07:002016-07-21T10:24:35.655-07:00It was a cool airplane (in a museum FULL of cool a...It was a cool airplane (in a museum FULL of cool airplanes). It took me a second to recognize it, and yes it was one of my first models also, because I didn't realize the nose was that long.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-67764892726553375322016-07-21T08:37:05.127-07:002016-07-21T08:37:05.127-07:00Murph, at the entrance to the cross-over tunnel to...Murph, at the entrance to the cross-over tunnel to the third building they have two mannequins dressed in East German uniforms. These had those Commie burp guns. Those guns walked out somehow and I'd guess security tightened up after that. As an aside, Juvat, did you find the black painted Hangars a help or a bother?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48359030720178575552016-07-21T07:39:31.973-07:002016-07-21T07:39:31.973-07:00Great photos, great text, and a great museum. Hist...Great photos, great text, and a great museum. Historical trivia: a certain blogger who likes guns, planes and dogs was frog-marched out of that museum back in the 1980's for giving himself a self-guided interior tour of that B-24 standing behind the Italian fighter there. Note to museum staff: If you don't want people in the aircraft, don't put benches directly below open waist-gun ports. And who even knew that they had plainclothes security in there, anyway?Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80618198194708726962016-07-21T06:59:02.048-07:002016-07-21T06:59:02.048-07:00Hey, Juvat, I am enjoying this series of posts. I...Hey, Juvat, I am enjoying this series of posts. I actually just got to go to the AF Museum last May. My brother is part of the Pavelow exhibit there (he was on that bird's last flight). Best part of the trip was when I noticed a father and his kids showing particular interest in the Pavelow. I walked up and asked if they wanted to meet a guy who flew on it. The kids eyes got real wide as I pointed to my brother. I then brought them over and introduced them. I then got to watch Bob back in his element talking about his 15 years as a Pavelow gunner. I know he misses it (he retired in 2009).<br />Hopefully next time we'll have enough notice to get the early morning tour and be able to get on the helicopter.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12033897909182292097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-781308381576107712016-07-21T06:34:12.138-07:002016-07-21T06:34:12.138-07:00First model I ever built was the FW 190First model I ever built was the FW 190(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80038854573639957322016-07-21T06:01:53.840-07:002016-07-21T06:01:53.840-07:00I just hope he/she made it through.I just hope he/she made it through.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.com