tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post5695851067767390902..comments2024-03-29T07:11:26.839-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: While Sarge's away....The kids will play!OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-18909897181706604742019-10-20T18:35:12.554-07:002019-10-20T18:35:12.554-07:00We do some training with RAF Buccaneers in the lat...We do some training with RAF Buccaneers in the late 80's at AFWTF, I believe. I honesty thought they might hit the mast of our FFG - it was fun to be a part of it. Tom Murinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09763200486501331592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-48503695611402451762019-10-12T17:08:57.794-07:002019-10-12T17:08:57.794-07:00(Don McCollor)[68 actually & civilian]...maybe...(Don McCollor)[68 actually & civilian]...maybe the most dangerous flying outside of carrier ops - the B52 minimum interval takeoff in the 1960's...a nuclear armed B52 lifting off every 15 seconds (clip from the movie "A Gathering of Eagles" shows it)...one lifting at the end, one halfway down the runway fighting the turbulence, another starting it's takeoff roll..Don McCollorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028324869570493102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-36863896579935560742019-10-12T16:07:19.550-07:002019-10-12T16:07:19.550-07:00Who knows, one of them may be the Squadron Command...Who knows, one of them may be the Squadron Commander. :)<br /><br />- VictorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-29970277247842695412019-10-12T12:46:34.149-07:002019-10-12T12:46:34.149-07:00😁😁OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-639382146625031332019-10-12T09:07:07.010-07:002019-10-12T09:07:07.010-07:00Just watched the first one. Holy Crap! Hopefully...Just watched the first one. Holy Crap! Hopefully it wasn't shown to the Squadron Commander until AFTER his change of command and NEVER to the Wing Commander. Both would have had cardiac problems.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-45560943329853791512019-10-12T08:59:10.741-07:002019-10-12T08:59:10.741-07:00Well, the results were worth it. Looks pretty nic...Well, the results were worth it. Looks pretty nice. Just spent the morning cleaning up the shop after the sanding job from hell. Dust collector was full, air filter was full, crappy dusk mask even crappier than usual. John's recommended dust mask was a godsend. (Thanks, John.) So, I've got some idea what you went through.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19278315663873131602019-10-12T08:56:01.773-07:002019-10-12T08:56:01.773-07:00It always takes me by surprise when I see Buff'...It always takes me by surprise when I see Buff's in flight, that while their angle of attack (angle of the wings verses direction of flight) is positive The angle of the fuselage is pointed down. But what do I know? I'm not 67 years old, much less been flying for that long.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-23853322590581161672019-10-12T08:52:17.531-07:002019-10-12T08:52:17.531-07:00I had seen that one. Bit Chatty, isn't he? Ot...I had seen that one. Bit Chatty, isn't he? Other than that, it was fun.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-36148255345492883382019-10-12T08:49:17.470-07:002019-10-12T08:49:17.470-07:00Victor, DEFINITELY!Victor, DEFINITELY!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60841324548001415292019-10-11T22:48:57.489-07:002019-10-11T22:48:57.489-07:00My only experience with the A-7 was attacking one ...My only experience with the A-7 was attacking one with an orbital sander, to get it prepped for paint. Holy cow, SO MUCH DUST. I’m sure it was toxic, too.<br /><br />This one, at the MAPS museum in Canton, OH:<br /><br />https://www.cityvisitor.com/library/Attractions/mapsmuseumA7_CorsairII.jpga bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07871505359143633270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-68415047369198666022019-10-11T18:50:58.483-07:002019-10-11T18:50:58.483-07:00Hey, Juvat - if you haven't seen it, this one ...Hey, Juvat - if you haven't seen it, this one will get your stomach and legs going a bit - Typhoons in the Mach loop from the cockpit<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7qrYi8R_MTom in NChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03576958446243001152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60180686458279571782019-10-11T17:11:58.535-07:002019-10-11T17:11:58.535-07:00Here's a vid of low flying by the RF-4s of the...Here's a vid of low flying by the RF-4s of the Nevada ANG. It's worth watching until the end.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9khQr1iOPfs<br /><br />And here's the biggest aircraft to have come through the Mach loop:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmK5roc3HwY<br /><br />He made 2 passes. The 2nd pass was definitely low.<br /><br />- VictorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19043529564423187462019-10-11T16:57:01.938-07:002019-10-11T16:57:01.938-07:00(Don McCollor)...probably the greatest carrier fly...(Don McCollor)...probably the greatest carrier flyby ever was the B52 below flight deck level at 50 feet (no video, just photos)...fighter jets may be loud, but those eight engines must have sounded like the Second Coming...Don McCollorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028324869570493102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-64789071175939263102019-10-11T12:46:28.168-07:002019-10-11T12:46:28.168-07:00The A-7 used to beat the snot out of F-16s also. ...The A-7 used to beat the snot out of F-16s also. 1st Gen A-10 didn't have a lot of automation, just one honkin' big gun. So dropping bombs was just like WWII all over. That changed for both the A-10 and F-16s as they matured. Fortunately, the A-10 still HAS that gun.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-72218495553429902392019-10-11T12:43:43.939-07:002019-10-11T12:43:43.939-07:00Thanks, Beans. Yeah, had to cut a lot of my progr...Thanks, Beans. Yeah, had to cut a lot of my programs to fund it, and then only to have Billy Jeff take more money from the budget. Remember me? I'm the guy that had to shut down the SR-71. Guess why?juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-91800580578727820702019-10-11T12:41:24.973-07:002019-10-11T12:41:24.973-07:00Coming into the F-4 as my first operational assign...Coming into the F-4 as my first operational assignment, I had the good fortune to be assigned to Kunsan. That assignment is a remote, meaning no families. Most of the guys in the squadron had served at least one tour in F-4s in Vietnam. All we had to do for entertainment was talk about flying, shooting hands (and drinking adult recreational beverages, but that's not relevant right now). Additionally, there were few restrictions on flying. One should expect to be bounced on takeoff. In fact, I was on my first ride there. The attacker was the Wing Commander. Suffice it to say, while I didn't get a lot of flying time there (Thank you Jimmuh CahTuh! Not) what I did learn stood me in good stead. The key idea was that the next most dangerous place to be other than being in someone's gunsight was to have someone IN your gunsight. Even in 1 V 1 in the Eagle, my practice was to get the best shot I could within 90 degrees of turn and then exit outside of range. It was loads of fun to swoop and pull and race around, but it taught bad habits. It took a while after I became a flight commander to get my guys to realize that, but old age and treachery won out of youth and strength...eventually.<br /><br />Yeah, it's a show, got to show the Taxpayers what they're paying for, and an explosion from 20 miles away isn't that awe-inspiring.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-24216450686951640252019-10-11T12:29:34.043-07:002019-10-11T12:29:34.043-07:00Hope you're having fun. Nice array of adult r...Hope you're having fun. Nice array of adult recreational beverages in your liquor cabinet, I must say. Well...Were in your liquor cabinet....:-)juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-70258022546857782012019-10-11T11:09:35.642-07:002019-10-11T11:09:35.642-07:00Ah, the Raptor. We (the USA) shoulda bought a who...Ah, the Raptor. We (the USA) shoulda bought a whole lot more of those birds. And the F-22 should have been named Lightning-II as it was designed as a long-range twin-engine interceptor, much like the original Lighting. Bummer.<br /><br />Good vids. <br /><br />And I still can't believe some jerk called out our benefactor for posting pics that weren't listed as copywrited. I've heard from other blogs that there's a real racket in posting pics on a pic site and not claiming copywrite privileges, then suing bloggers.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3314532733764838272019-10-11T11:04:37.810-07:002019-10-11T11:04:37.810-07:00I love A-7s. Beautiful planes, used to see them a...I love A-7s. Beautiful planes, used to see them at Patrick AFB, NatGuardsmen flying over to Avon Park to drop. Loved watching them play over the base.<br /><br />The 'Turkey' reference lost me, until I remember that until the great re-engining, the Tomcat was a bit of a dud.<br /><br />Heh. The NatGuard SLUFs used to beat the snot out of the 1st Gen A-10 pilots at bombing competitions. I think the AF A-10 pilots finally won by default once the Corsairs were decommissioned. Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-43681636146456927442019-10-11T10:52:01.418-07:002019-10-11T10:52:01.418-07:00Regarding your comments about the F-22's dogfi...Regarding your comments about the F-22's dogfighting supremacy: I remember reading some remarks by a WW2 fighter pilot who had flown and assessed different types after the war. He said that, all the way to the end of the war, a really hot pilot in a light(!) Me-109 might have been the terror of the skies in a one-on-one dogfight, but that that wasn't the way the war was being won. The message comes down through history: A man alone is a liability, a two-ship team is a force. (Compare the F4F Wildcat to the A6M Zero. Joe Foss said "If it's one Wildcat to one Zero, you're outnumbered: go home.") I think you're dead-on about it. But it's a show, after all.LoFan Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09670806965670035017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-36603825410995864312019-10-11T10:22:47.394-07:002019-10-11T10:22:47.394-07:00Nice!Nice!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-51231471719019874592019-10-11T09:39:48.975-07:002019-10-11T09:39:48.975-07:00Most of that low level was flown at 500 to 1000...Most of that low level was flown at 500 to 1000'. Some of the ridge crossings were much lower though. Pretty much like I'd have flown the F-4. Felt my stomach and leg muscles contracting during some of the turns. Obviously I pull a lot of g's in my desk chair. ;-)juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-62499812590235854802019-10-11T09:37:32.317-07:002019-10-11T09:37:32.317-07:00Thanks Tom.Thanks Tom.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-33862272942628860172019-10-11T09:28:15.240-07:002019-10-11T09:28:15.240-07:00Must have been difficult to keep a straight face, ...Must have been difficult to keep a straight face, a smart move, but difficult.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-56357721001993540372019-10-11T09:26:55.000-07:002019-10-11T09:26:55.000-07:00Thanks, PA.
I don't know for sure, but I'...Thanks, PA.<br /><br />I don't know for sure, but I'm sure that the flight controls are more like the F-16 than the Eagle. The Eagle would let the pilot override the computer. The 16 is vice versa. I think the Raptor pilot uses the stick, rudder and throttles to tell the computer what he/she wants to happen, the computer makes it so.<br /><br />Very cool video, BTW. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.com