tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post667996146670725793..comments2024-03-28T05:53:09.950-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: It's Part of Me ...OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76341201008863303162022-12-03T05:46:42.028-08:002022-12-03T05:46:42.028-08:00It's destroying the country.It's destroying the country.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-14331080949210133432022-12-02T23:24:26.338-08:002022-12-02T23:24:26.338-08:00This is so very true. I have family members that d...This is so very true. I have family members that do not think, they just believe what they are told to believe, by the media.SCOTTtheBADGERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859188068159799373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-20025832874908007422022-12-02T17:05:07.752-08:002022-12-02T17:05:07.752-08:00I have not read that, time to do some digging. Tha...I have not read that, time to do some digging. Thanks Tom.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-33812898923639569932022-12-02T16:16:56.496-08:002022-12-02T16:16:56.496-08:00Bellows Falls........have you read Journey to the ...Bellows Falls........have you read Journey to the End of an Era by Melvin Hall, highly recommended. TomTomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05541081583111968999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-70614462016891396312022-12-02T10:31:11.412-08:002022-12-02T10:31:11.412-08:00Well said, in true Beansian fashion!Well said, in true Beansian fashion!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60146823214751440042022-12-02T10:04:52.951-08:002022-12-02T10:04:52.951-08:00Well, regarding Orthodox churches, Dad used to dra...Well, regarding Orthodox churches, Dad used to drag us to the local Greek Orthodox church for whenever they were doing their festivals for the food, of course. As to other Orthodox churches, which one? Armenian Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Ukrainian Orthodox (which the split of UO from RO apparently is a part of the reason for Putin putting forces into the Ukraine)? Or just lump them all into the label 'Eastern Orthodox Church'? Which, if you do, you can end up in a vicious orthodoxy fight because one group often does not get along with another group (see aforementioned RO/UO issue.) <br /><br />Sure, at one time the Eastern Orthodoxies were larger than the Roman Catholic Church (thanks to plagues and other issues) but collectively they are not as big as the RCC. Though the RCC is shedding parishioners like a dead dog sheds ticks, while the Orthodoxies seem to be keeping theirs and gaining members. Wonder if it's due to the deemphasis on the Mysteries in the RCC. Heck, the dufus commie-pope said Hell doesn't exist, which would get him stoned or beat to death in the Orthodoxies (hmm, might be a way to rally all them Os under one roof for a few minutes, but, no, ain't gonna happen. The Swissers would protect the jackalope, darned it.)<br /><br />As to 'color' and 'flavor' of people, grew up not caring, not really noticing at all. Each one tended to have slightly to radically different foods and all were pretty darned okay (as long as you stayed away from that pickled herring stuff of the Scandinavians, or the other nasty food surprises from various other peoples.) Wasn't until I came to a 'liberal' town that I actually saw real prejudice and 'racism' and 'bigotry.' Boy, were the Diversity Classes ever fun at one employer (fun because, well, whodathunk I couldn't keep my big fat trap shut? Whodathunkt the pasty-white fat hetero married male would have ever experienced bigotry and racism and prejudice? Hey, they brought it up. I still defend my answer to when the Diversity 'officer' asked what I saw when I looked around the room full of XXX employees, which was, "XXX employees." Not white, black, green, plaid, male, female, made-up-gender-mental-illnesses or other things. Second was 'uniform vs street clothes, third was gender (two of only) and fourth was skin, fifth was hair, maybe fourth was size, maybe. Importance of identification feature in order of listing, #1 being most important and #3 on basically being nitpicky fiddly bits, more to describe person than using their name. ("That brown, long-haired white lady who sits next to Karl, who is she?" type of thing.) Diversity occifers hated me, so did the people who wished to be labeled as butt-hurt whiners. <br /><br />All that discrimination bullscat? I never had it. Didn't grow up in it. Don't care for it. The only thing that separated us kids growing up was what street one played on and maybe if one's parents were officers or enlisted, otherwise didn't care, not important. <br /><br />This new butt-hurt culture of ours pisses me off greatly. Would gladly open up a corporal punishment stand at the next butt-hurt rally to show them what butt-hurt really means. Obviously far too many butt-hurters have never had their asses whipped for being butt-stupid, and it shows.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-3515523323189186162022-12-02T09:42:20.493-08:002022-12-02T09:42:20.493-08:00Amen.Amen.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19424993741351700452022-12-02T09:29:00.738-08:002022-12-02T09:29:00.738-08:00Born almost a full year before Pearl, I was one of...Born almost a full year before Pearl, I was one of the few Jewish kids in a very small town (a truck-farming community), but it didn't make any difference (none that I could see anyway). Our family religion was America; a country/place/idea where people could worship G*d in any manner/church/synagogue in which they felt comfortable. <br />I went on active in '66 (an only child); there was never any question in our family but that I was going to write a blank check to Uncle Sam; when "Your Lord" calls for your service, you answer, with fervor.boronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05780356895910449471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-46386861179863898002022-12-02T08:41:12.982-08:002022-12-02T08:41:12.982-08:00"Until I learned to think for myself ..."..."Until I learned to think for myself ..." key thing right there, most people do not think for themselves, if they think at all!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-35269413642741404572022-12-02T08:19:04.801-08:002022-12-02T08:19:04.801-08:00Concur.
I too grew up as an upper-middle class wh...Concur. <br />I too grew up as an upper-middle class white kid in the burbs. Just too young for Vietnam (I'm an "Era" vet). Family split when I was starting my teens. Church had been routine in my childhood ( Great Grandfather had preached there) but with "visitation" on weekends , church took a backseat.<br />Bought into much of the leftist carp in HS and even college until I learned to think for myself. The slanted reporting on Vietnam helped open my eyes as most of my college friends were veterans.<br />Boat GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-44365163125320421292022-12-02T07:56:21.331-08:002022-12-02T07:56:21.331-08:00Not everyone had an idyllic childhood, which I did...Not everyone had an idyllic childhood, which I did acknowledge. Concur with your last.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-15875203384585132182022-12-02T07:55:23.758-08:002022-12-02T07:55:23.758-08:00Good point, we need to arrest the rot or it will c...Good point, we need to arrest the rot or it will continue.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19208585754236783122022-12-02T07:54:12.900-08:002022-12-02T07:54:12.900-08:00Our involvement in Vietnam, and its portrayal on t...Our involvement in Vietnam, and its portrayal on the "news" along with the ineptitude (if not downright treason) in Washington DC is really where it all started to go wrong. At least in my estimation.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-85502288991619163962022-12-02T07:52:30.225-08:002022-12-02T07:52:30.225-08:00Sounds bad.Sounds bad.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-7783232908424414102022-12-02T07:13:00.948-08:002022-12-02T07:13:00.948-08:00Seems a guy was complaining about hearing the same...Seems a guy was complaining about hearing the same thing every time he came to church, no variety. The pastor said, "If you came more often than Christmas and Easter, you'd hear something different." C's and E's. That's a good description. <br /><br />I remember the 60's and 70's as that, too. Born a decade after you. We didn't have tv near the table, and news wasn't very interesting to a little kid. But I remember the war, and when my uncle was killed. The carefree playing outside until I heard mom holler, or dad whistle. Really found my spot when we moved to a 5 acre farm. Farm animals, working the dirt, working for farmers, haying, irrigating, hog production, welding, mechanics fit my head. As I look back at those times, I miss them. I think it's a normal, natural thing to look back, remember only the good, and wish for the simplicity of those times. <br /><br />If I'd had a raising like James, I'm not sure I'd be so charitable about the past. <br />aRGH, I can't even type today.STxARhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588850178293194825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-6693259792526373102022-12-02T05:34:32.707-08:002022-12-02T05:34:32.707-08:00Sarge, I fall into the decade behind you and in a ...Sarge, I fall into the decade behind you and in a different part of the country with not a lot of snow, but lots of the same shared experiences: small town with a single high school, K-8 school where I knew all of my classmates, Summers spent out of doors in woods, Grandparents and extended family within driving distance, church (of the Protestant variety) every Sunday. It was not a remarkable one to me at the time, but seems magical in retrospect, perhaps made more by the fact that it seems such an unrecoverable existence in today's world. <br /><br />I am sure like many parents of the day, actual problems were shielded from me - which, at least from my perspective, is probably as it should be. Adulthood can be a hard, joyless grind. As you suggest - and I agree with - having those sorts of memories can be a blessing in hard times. I can still smile, 40+ years later, about taking the shortcut up the hill to my best friend's house, cutting across the neighbor's property and through their fence (they knew we did this) for whatever the plan of the day was.<br /><br />Could we get back - maybe not to that mythical era (as you say, it was not great for everyone and there were some significant issues), but to something resembling it a bit more? I truly and sincerely fear not. That would require the sort of true soul searching and evaluating of what is truly valuable to us as a society (versus what society tells us is valuable to us) that we do not seem capable of anymore.Toirdhealbheach Beucailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14872794169534403463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-61507943833614523372022-12-02T04:48:18.459-08:002022-12-02T04:48:18.459-08:00I started out in '53 also, other side of the c...I started out in '53 also, other side of the continent. I turned 8 in Hawaii and left when I was 13, I was a Haloe. Years later my mom told me they transferred back to the mainland because I was getting too friendly with the Hawaiian girls.<br /><br />I was wondering about the decline in church going, religion has been huge for a great many years (centuries!). I wonder if there is a correlation between the media and religion? <br />By media I think I'd start with the the war in Vietnam on the news at the dinner table in the late 60s and follow thru to today where people are always plugged in via their phones. I know that's a very general sweep of things but the advances in media have changed things a lot... <br />FWIW I just looked and it says 91% of the WORLD are cell phone owners...Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05450082315014407506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-50746955339471000162022-12-02T03:58:36.039-08:002022-12-02T03:58:36.039-08:00Born in 1950, family dissolved fairly early on, gr...Born in 1950, family dissolved fairly early on, grew up literally starving poor in a middle class neighborhood until mid teen years. Not much positive to say about it. Both my brother and I are preppers as we lived with the reality of what is coming for most. I truly feel for those who have grown up with plenty and what they will face in the future.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993938643115716912noreply@blogger.com