tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post7321004735511426639..comments2024-03-28T22:08:48.577-07:00Comments on Chant du Départ: Typhoon Tales (Episode 1)OldAFSargehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-28661931725887749612014-10-29T07:16:40.895-07:002014-10-29T07:16:40.895-07:00I had a private room, as an E-5.
Once!
It was at B...I had a private room, as an E-5.<br />Once!<br />It was at Balboa Hospital and I had <i>Rubella</i>.<br />The isolation ward is a lonely place.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-76769977545867056112014-10-28T19:26:50.758-07:002014-10-28T19:26:50.758-07:00Yeah, there's rules and there's physics. O...Yeah, there's rules and there's physics. One can be violated, the other, not.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-26480982876434726052014-10-28T18:37:03.257-07:002014-10-28T18:37:03.257-07:00Around the boat, at night, you wanna be fat. Stuff...Around the boat, at night, you wanna be fat. Stuff happens. The spare runway is parked well over the horizon. Sometimes very far over the horizon. There's almost always a tanker or two airborne, and a manned spare on the deck. Almost always being the important part of that phrase. And it's night, right? Stuff happens. So you work pretty hard to stay fat as long as possible. But you can only be so heavy coming aboard. So sometime between leaving the marshal stack and being pretty sure stuff isn't gonna happen you dump down in an effort to cross the ramp at max trap. So a good bit of gas gets dumped at sea.<br /><br />PrairieAdventurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06466447251827774900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80002786123405916542014-10-28T18:03:25.238-07:002014-10-28T18:03:25.238-07:00E-3 with a private room??? Figures... sigh... The ...E-3 with a private room??? Figures... sigh... The NAVY had E-5/E-6s four to a room at Kadena thank you very much... Sounds to me like some pretty lousy leadership there. NEVER put a shop weenie around and airplane without an adult close.Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-5721885109496926002014-10-28T12:30:24.907-07:002014-10-28T12:30:24.907-07:00I went back and read one of your Wakkanai posts th...I went back and read one of your Wakkanai posts the other day (I do believe there was a link in a comment) and speaking of winter only counts when one is sleeping in a tent. Or perhaps getting one's feet wet on board a destroyer in the far north / far south.<br /><br />Having experienced 40 below zero (F) in my home state, being cold is something I grok.<br /><br />The tactical control folks are in a class all by themselves. Only PJs are crazier. (And I mean that in a GOOD way!)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-80746689183828530722014-10-28T12:17:15.159-07:002014-10-28T12:17:15.159-07:00Does the Gulf of Sakhalin count. Sarge?
Even in Ju...<i>Does the Gulf of Sakhalin count. Sarge?<br />Even in June it felt like winter.</i><br /><br />Heh. See the label "Wakkanai" at EIP. On a clear day we could see Sakhalin across the straits from the air station. It wasn't all THAT bad if you were lucky enough to have Terra Firma under yer feet... which is an advantage we in the "Junior Service" had over our Navy brethren.<br /><br />As far as sleeping in tents goes... the folks who spent time (I might should say "did time") in the USAF tactical aircraft control world can match you one-for-one when it comes to "tent stories." I managed to avoid that semi-wonderful world by extreme great good fortune.Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319116022465066060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60480920334742512632014-10-28T12:02:20.326-07:002014-10-28T12:02:20.326-07:00Virgil - "40-man tents in Northern Italy in D...Virgil - <em>"40-man tents in Northern Italy in Dec"</em> Yup, that's pretty cold.<br /><br /><em>"Slit trenches and piss tubes"</em> I think puts you in the top 5 crappiest winter accommodations. Don't know how that compares with a tincan in the Gulf of Sakhalin though. I'm pretty damn sure I don't want to experience either!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-56742583700981620042014-10-28T11:58:25.616-07:002014-10-28T11:58:25.616-07:00Skip - Gulf of Sakhalin definitely counts!Skip - Gulf of Sakhalin definitely counts!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-60854946501885543452014-10-28T11:39:23.172-07:002014-10-28T11:39:23.172-07:00@ well-seasoned fool/
LOL. Our Squadron spent two...@ well-seasoned fool/<br /><br />LOL. Our Squadron spent two.whole.weeks in 40-man tents in Northern Italy in Dec in the muck and the mire at an old WW II abandoned runway "proving" a NATO "bare-base" operating concept--complete with slit-trenches and piss-tubes and all that--no walk in the park--two weeks was <i>more</i> than enough, let alone an entire winter!virgil xenophonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577165785872035948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-50927841148782417472014-10-28T11:03:30.421-07:002014-10-28T11:03:30.421-07:00Does the Gulf of Sakhalin count. Sarge?
Even in Ju...Does the Gulf of Sakhalin count. Sarge?<br />Even in June it felt like winter.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-31386158436152103112014-10-28T09:50:57.025-07:002014-10-28T09:50:57.025-07:00Makes sense.
Going to burner is more fun anyway, ...Makes sense.<br /><br />Going to burner is more fun anyway, right?OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19890071995561151462014-10-28T09:33:23.530-07:002014-10-28T09:33:23.530-07:00I'm not sure. I almost got to drop bombs from...I'm not sure. I almost got to drop bombs from the F-15, but the mission got cancelled by direct call from the PACAF commander to the SOF as we were taking the runway. I think it was on Okinawa, but I'm not positive of that. If that's so, fuel would not have been an issue. But the only time I've ever heard of anyone dumping gas was in an emergency. There were some restrictions involved, minimum altitudes etc. And in general we pilots preferred to use the burners to consume fuel.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-87092686452184456052014-10-28T08:05:25.194-07:002014-10-28T08:05:25.194-07:00Should have asked Juvat, how far away was the rang...Should have asked Juvat, how far away was the range for Kadena? That would make a difference yes?OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-79664568611591267902014-10-28T08:04:01.219-07:002014-10-28T08:04:01.219-07:00I recall on Okinawa seeing the Phantoms dumping fu...I recall on Okinawa seeing the Phantoms dumping fuel nearly every day.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-21557493445327365102014-10-28T08:02:44.168-07:002014-10-28T08:02:44.168-07:00Okay, you win Juvat.
Unless someone out there who...Okay, you win Juvat.<br /><br />Unless someone out there who reads the blog was on the Russian Front.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-19029675329131337602014-10-28T08:02:09.954-07:002014-10-28T08:02:09.954-07:00I don't recall our birds ever going to Clark f...I don't recall our birds ever going to Clark for a typhoon. Ever.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-69441189065408098582014-10-28T07:55:54.855-07:002014-10-28T07:55:54.855-07:00Chitose AB Hokkaido Japan. Open bay Quonset hut. ...Chitose AB Hokkaido Japan. Open bay Quonset hut. 1 coal stove. No coal. Japanese Winter.juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-22058647022509576302014-10-28T07:49:20.231-07:002014-10-28T07:49:20.231-07:00Yeah, and notice which way they evac'd. Clark...Yeah, and notice which way they evac'd. Clark. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure we never evac'd to Clark. Kwang Ju, yes. Kunsan, Yes. Taegu, Yes. Osan, Yes. Clark? No Way!juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-5612912795024299132014-10-28T07:47:26.987-07:002014-10-28T07:47:26.987-07:00There are times when full burner is bad. They'...There are times when full burner is bad. They're generally few and far between but they're there. Like when an engine exploded and damaged the other limiting it to slightly less than mil power. Fortunately this occurred almost directly overhead the field. Getting the jet down fast was the plan. The dump switch came in handy. juvathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09096708575138552532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-559075091560884522014-10-28T07:32:01.555-07:002014-10-28T07:32:01.555-07:00It always amazed me that an aircraft with 90 secon...It always amazed me that an aircraft with 90 seconds of internal fuel (on burner) required a fuel dump system... I never heard of an F-4 excess fuel! I remember on the Midway the F-4N's would launch, tank, fly to station, tank, do their mission, tank, return to the boat, tank, and recover, after which they were fueled in preparation for the next flight. Man, those J-79's were thirsty!Poguehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14844435158421387888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-75137861450153724492014-10-28T07:23:40.556-07:002014-10-28T07:23:40.556-07:00I know Air Force guys from Okinawa who experienced...I know Air Force guys from Okinawa who experienced that in a Korean winter during <em>Team Spirit</em>, I never got to do that in the Air Force.<br /><br />I have however slept in pup tents in my re-enacting days. Never in a German winter though.<br /><br />There are many reasons I didn't join the Army, but the big one is that I had recruiters lying to me when I was interested in joining.<br /><br />Not a surprise but I knew they were lying and they knew that I knew. And they didn't really care. Oh well.OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-31168610347568388452014-10-28T07:20:14.381-07:002014-10-28T07:20:14.381-07:00"the decks were awash and some folks got thei...<em>"the decks were awash and some folks got their feet wet"</em><br /><br />Uh yeah, I would think so.<br /><br />Being in a typhoon while on a can? No thanks!OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-34748800396351702132014-10-28T07:09:08.808-07:002014-10-28T07:09:08.808-07:00Life in the barracks was not all that bad. We were...Life in the barracks was not all that bad. We were one man to a room<br /><br />Should have went Army, and enjoyed a 40 man tent with two inadequate stoves, in a German winter.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-78454922545936782642014-10-28T07:06:11.749-07:002014-10-28T07:06:11.749-07:00On a ship everyone gets to go.
Typically, the rout...On a ship everyone gets to go.<br />Typically, the routine does change some.<br />Step one is something like:<br /><i>When you're worried,<br />or in doubt.<br />Run in circles,<br />scream and shout.</i> <br />The one deployment I enjoyed to WestPac coincided with the typhoon season.<br />We were diverted before we ever reached our first port of call.<br />That entailed having an underway refueling.<br />It also involved doing so in seas on the fringes of an major storm.<br />Let's just say the decks were awash and some folks got their feet wet.(not necessarily your) Uncle Skiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02705753220273516841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7684531976778247960.post-9941234853533034282014-10-28T06:41:37.919-07:002014-10-28T06:41:37.919-07:00Hahahahahahaha!
Well put Bill, well put. Group 3 ...Hahahahahahaha!<br /><br />Well put Bill, well put. Group 3 is no doubt the group I would wind up in.<br /><br />I should have realized that you spent time on Okinawa. For those not in the know, Bill and I served together in Germany.<br /><br />Nice of you to stop by! (I think you have commented before, but advancing old age makes me forget things. What?)OldAFSargehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15935839956936191547noreply@blogger.com