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Here's what sparked this: The Naming Commission Comes for West Point.¹
What is the Naming Commission's mission?
The commission is chartered with five primary activities:
- Assessing the cost of renaming or removing names, symbols, displays, monuments, or paraphernalia that commemorate the Confederate States of America or any person who served voluntarily with the Confederate States of America.
- Developing procedures and criteria to assess whether an existing name, symbol, monument, display, or paraphernalia commemorates the Confederate States of America or person who served voluntarily with the Confederate States of America.
- Recommending procedures for renaming assets of the Department of Defense to prevent commemoration of the Confederate States of America or any person who served voluntarily with the Confederate States of America.
- Developing a plan to remove names, symbols, displays, monuments, or paraphernalia that commemorate the Confederate States of America or any person who served voluntarily with the Confederate States of America from assets of the Department of Defense, within the timeline established by this Act.
- Including in the plan procedures and criteria for collecting and incorporating local sensitivities associated with naming or renaming of assets of the Department of Defense. (Source)
To say that I have mixed feelings about the activities of this commission is something of an understatement. To say that I don't understand why "they" are doing this is an outright lie. That being said ...
How do you feel about this?
Remember, be nice.
¹ Tip o' the hat to reader ColoComment who posted this link in another forum.
The cabal in charge wants to change day to day life, renaming things is a really good start.
ReplyDeleteYup, the Woke want to change the world.
DeleteYes to Rob's comment. This is all part of the plan to erase our history so that the commies can rewrite it their purposes.
ReplyDeleteThey are making a mistake though; the reckoning that is coming will not be War Between the States 2.0, it will be the Second American Rebolution. We will be fighting a second war against an oppressor for our Liberties.
Boat Guy
Yup.
DeleteYou can't have the New Soviet Man without destroying the old traditions.
ReplyDeleteSOme of those useful idiots actually believe that.
DeleteBG nailed it Sarge.
ReplyDeleteWell...except for the name of the 1861-1865 tragedy. It is more properly called "The War Against the States"
DeleteBG
Nylon12 - 👍
DeleteBG - Just some of them.
DeleteI seem to remember some odd law, written back in the carpetbagger era, that forgave their sin of disobedience and made them whole again. All they had to do is a penance, sign a paper saying they would not do that again. So, I say, they were historical figures, leaders of the day. Who were thrust into a situation not of their making, and established a path for others.good, bad or indefferan, they should be remembered for what they did.
ReplyDeleteI have that same recollection.
Delete"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me".
ReplyDeleteWhat this commission, and every other body/group/individual working to overturn a memorial to a Confederate soldier, or of a tribe of Native Americans, no matter how generic, are forgetting is that suppressed ideas don't go away, they quietly seethe under the surface.
Maybe a high school was named for General Lee, or the Mohawks, because of their tenacity, and fighting spirit, in a time when needing discipline, and stick-to-it-tiveness was a positive and admired trait. Maybe from a time when values, morals, and adherence not only to the law, but also to honor were important life lessons is this country. When people were not looking for, nor given, a hand out, but a hand up, an opportunity. After all, there are many places that commemorate Martin Luther King, and he also has a rather checkered history, especially when it comes to women. Why is it that we can not, or will not, separate the wheat from the chaff, and insist on throwing the baby out with the bathwater?
Bottom line as I see it, much of what is wrong, much of the direction this country is taking, much can be traced back to a decline in the spirit of America as a country founded on Judeo-Christian values. Folks need to put down the remote controller, put away the Xbox and get their butts back into the church pews. We all need to be opening up our Bibles, or whatever your religious book of instruction is, and get back to listening to God. Every religion teaches about mercy, self-protection, giving a hand up to those who need it, the importance of charity, the values of values, of honor, of "doing the right thing", but also the value of doing work. And of not following false prophets.
All of these pearl-clutching organizations and groups are just tumbleweeds on the road of life. Everyone can see through them. No one likes them. Everyone thinks they are just a bunch of nonsense, otherwise, no one would have major issue with what they state their goals are.
Why is it that the Confederacy is all of a sudden such a terrible thing? Because of slavery? Newsflash: the American Civil War didn't end slavery, it still exists, even in this country. How do you all think all these illegal immigrants are paying the criminals who are transporting them across our Southern border thousands of dollars??? Not with Venmo.
IMHO, folks need to turn off the screens, and go out and get a life, DO something to create a life instead of tearing down and trying to destroy places/objects/thoughts of the rest of our society value. You don't like it, fine, don't go there. Turn the channel. But stop ruining everything for the rest of us.
My $0.2.
Suz
Lenin called them useful idiots. They think that when New Soviet Man is born that they will be the elite.
DeleteLeon Trotsky, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Hey Old AFSarge;
ReplyDeleteThis is pure pandering, a solution for a nonexistent problem. The Soviets would do this as part of their journey of the new Soviet man, rename things and people, to wipe out the past. Once the past is wiped out, then you can substitute whatever the state wants in its place and the people will accept it because they know no better. And a people that doesn't know of its past and traditions are easily malleable and lead. The modern left are doing the same thing here, it is part of the long march through our institutions.
The only problem is with their thought processes.
DeleteI am unable to be polite when commenting upon this disgusting "Commission" and its works.
ReplyDeleteAye!
DeleteAttempting to erase the past is a horribly bad plan. It's there to remind you not to do that again.
ReplyDelete"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind:
it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up."
Those who do this ... may live to regret it. I doubt they will then understand that they created their own destruction.
I truly hope they live to regret it.
DeleteSanitizing history won't make it go away. There is too much history in the wild to cover it up. Like everything the .gov is involved in now, it's basically pig cosmetics with gaslighting for illumination. Majoring on the minor issues only causes smaller factions and fractures. Our "elite" are really 'small type' people. And every effort they put forth makes them smaller still.
ReplyDeleteSmall in every sense of that word.
DeleteAll conquered peoples are deprived of their heroes and history. Always.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that they are removing "Reconciliation Park" tells you everything you need to know about who they think were conquerors and who they think the conquered are.
Exactly.
DeleteThe word “purge” carries certain connotations, but as others have alluded, I don’t think it’s inapt.
ReplyDeleteConcur. (Thanks for that link!)
DeleteMany of the Confederate leaders were USMA graduates. Maybe the commission should shut down West Point since it apparently is a den of treason.
ReplyDeleteAnon,
DeleteHmmm, good idea, sort of. As I think back on the History of the Civil War, It seems the sides were pretty well divided along political party lines. Ergo, since the South was the Bad Guys and guilty of Treason, maybe we should shut down the DEMOCRATIC PARTY!. They were in charge in the South.
Anon - Don't give them any ideas.
Deletejuvat - Now there's an idea with merit.
DeleteAlso, I daresay that we all wish that we could ignore these political goings on, and concentrate on caring for our families ‘n such, but maybe that’s exactly how we got to this state of affairs. We thought we could ignore politics but politics rolled on nonetheless. And now we complain about what it’s done/doing, to us, our offspring, our society, & our country.
ReplyDeleteAnd it’s our own demmed fault.
The young weren't paying attention, I can personally attest to that.
Delete1st step - removing any reference to the Confederacy
ReplyDelete2nd step - removing any reference to the 10 Amendments (they've already removed all reference to the 10 Commandments)
That's the direction they want to go.
DeleteGee, this violates federal law. Why? Because Congress passed a law protecting all Confederate memorials and cemetaries as they were, at the time of the law passing, now considered US military veterans and fallen soldiers. That was, I believe, back in the 50's.
ReplyDeleteKeep the names. Keep the statues, the plaques, the headstones, the everything. Quit pooping on our history. Quit making up sh...tuff to justify the Marxist way.
GAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
Same thing with all American heroes. From the Puritans to the Founding Fathers and Mothers to current heroes.
But pass 1 law, just one to fix this all. Person must be dead 25 years before that person's name can be put on a federal item. From a lowly toilet to a super carrier, street, building, tank, whatever. Gots to be dead a quarter century.
What? No!? A congresscritter violating their Oath? Say it ain't so. /sarc
DeleteAbsolutely no different than the Taliban, and their destruction of the offensive Buddah statues along the old Silk Road.
ReplyDeleteEvery bit as Stalinist as his erasing persons out of favor with the current rulers from photos, and removing their monuments, not to mention what happened to dissenters who were still alive.
George Orwell would instantly recognize these "renamers" for what they are, part of the cast of characters he portrayed in 1984 and Animal Farm.
History is history, and cannot be changed, either the parts we like, or the parts we are not proud of. To deny its existence is foolish, and an outright lie to humanity.
Everyone, except maybe one guy who died on a cross about 2023 years ago has sinned in some way. Today's targets may be anyone associated with the Confederacy. When the police promoting virtue and preventing vice come for adulterers, as they have or will, many icons will be swept onto the ash heap of known history. Martin Luther King (besides not being sufficiently enthused for unequal treatment based on race) was well know for his infidelity. Presidents reputed to have inappropriate sexual conduct include the incumbent, Slick Willy, General Eisenhower, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson and probably others.
Lots of stones being hurled by sinners, more likely motivated by a desire to keep their own transgressions hidden than to punish those whose sins, real or imaginary, have been discovered.
Will we see outrage over Africans who sold their neighbors into slavery? Insurrectionists who opposed Crown forces sent to seize arms at Lexington and Concord? Atheists who commit crimes? Politicians who lie (solid "no!" on that, there are not enough jails, or tar and feathers for that.)
WARNING- Now that military sites have been exorcised, watch for them to go after every Civil War site under the care of the National Park Service.
Those who have history books may have to hide them from the thought police.
John Blackshoe
Can't argue with any of that, JB.
DeleteMore problematic than mere allegiance to the Confederacy is actual racial hatred and violence, such as by the Ku Klux Klan. The renamers maybe should be looking into erasing anything commemorating that group and its supporters.
ReplyDeleteStart with a major public works program to rename half of the buildings and roads in West Virginia, tarnished by the name of Robert C. Byrd.
"Byrd started his political life as an Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan. In 1944, Byrd wrote the following in a letter to Senator Theodore Bilbo: "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." Byrd filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act for 14 hours."
(source: wnycstudios.org/podcasts/takeaway/articles/69395-did-robert-byrd-really-change-his-mind-race)
But, as a DEMOCRAT senator for 51 years, he is portrayed as a paragon of virtue.
And, as Juvat noted, we must hold the DEMOCRAT party accountable for their promotion of slavery, the secession of states from the union, formation of the Confederacy, and the opposition to the Civil Rights Acts. But, instead, President Lyndon B. Johnson indeed came up with a way to "keep [Blacks] voting Democrat for a hundred years." (Well only about 59 so far, but few have strayed off the welfare plantation yet.)
Wanna bet if any of that history gets erased?
John Blackshoe
All too true.
DeleteI'm a huge fan of not whitewashing history and judging those in the past by our current standards of behavior and decorum. Everybody was wrong back then when you look at them through today's rose-colored lenses (which ain't all that rosy). Also, the amount of time and money being spent on developing some collective sense of guilt, forcing it on the taxpayer, and instituting corrections (by destroying institutions), is a waste of time and energy.
ReplyDeleteAnd in many instances an absolute crime.
DeleteA couple of generations after they get away with it, it's just more history to be ignored.
DeleteWhat goes around, comes around.
DeleteCrusty Old TV Tech here. Those mental giants desiring this action are even going after street names (street names!) at Fairchild AFB for being too "Confederate". And DoD money is being diverted from truly worthy causes (like better grog bowls for Dinings In across the Fruited Plain) to THIS??? The Pentagon (the only building with 4 walls and a spare) was always a black pit of logic, but this takes the cake!
ReplyDeleteYup.
DeleteYou guys are way, way, way behind the times. The USAFA set the example 20 years ago by removing the slogan "Bring Me Men" at the base of the ramp leading from the cadet. Never mind that the slogan was from Sam Walter Foss's poem showing the American spirit in overcoming obstacles while striving for the best. Nope. All that is gone and only a shell remains -- a nice, pretty, shiny shell.
ReplyDeleteThe simple fact is that those who lacked backbone along with the ability to read, write, speak and understand the English language were in command. Then it spread through the AF and we changed manuals to he/she and a host of other ignorant changes that were changed only a few years later. I don't think anyone in command realized or cared about the cost for just changing the manuals and documents over and over.
Dave
They were too stupid to understand, or too blind.
DeleteThose who cannot learn from history because it's mostly been erased, are doomed to repeat it, and won't learn from it the second time either!
ReplyDeleteAin't that the truth?
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