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Monday, October 21, 2024

Reminiscing

 Well, Campers, it's Monday (when you first can read this), but it's Sunday in Juvat land as I write this.  Sarge, being the hard taskmaster he is, has set Monday as juvat post day.  This means I write on Sunday.  After Church of course, during which I am furiously praying, "Please Lord, give me something I can write about." He comes through pretty often.


For which I'm relieved.  By which I don't mean removed from the task, just happy to have an idea. So, as the song goes, "Off we go..."

 

 

Just thought I'd add that to the Melange.  (BTW the uniforms are awful!)

Anyhow!

I got to pondering my flying career.  Yes, I've got several stories about it in Sarge's vast library.  Some were about the Leadership I worked under and learned from. Others were about the fun and games of being a fighter pilot on TDY's away from home without much supervision. Yes, I learned a lot from them.  Usually the hard way.

A little historic chronology might help understand how I got where I am. I was commissioned in '77, came on AD in '78.  Got my wings in '79, went to my first assignment, Kunsan ROK, in the F-4D in '80, second assignment in the F-4E at Moody AFB GA in 81.  

 

My Phantom! (Source)

Went to Holloman AFB in '84 flying the AT-38B as an IP. 

 

Source

 Finally got an Eagle in '87 through '90. 

Yeah, I'm in there!

 
That was my last flying assignment.

More's the pity.  Do I miss it?  Silly Question!

Now, the reason for that chronology is that up through my AT-38 assignment Air to Air Basic Fighter Maneuvering was pretty much the same in all the airplanes I had flown/fought in.  The jet on the offense would be about a mile back and about 30 degrees off the tail of the jet on defense.  This was just outside of weapons parameters.  The defender's sole advantage was he got to call "Fight's on".  Typically, because the radio transmit button was on the throttles, he would make the call, just after he had slammed the throttles to the stop and the afterburners had lit.  

Hey, it ain't cheatin' if you win.

The guy on offense would pull the nose up (lighting the AB's also) and turn a bit towards the defender.  

Source

This was called a High Yo-Yo, if he'd gone below the defender's plane of motion, it would be a Low Yo-Yo. He would use these maneuvers to get within the launch envelope for a missile as well as close the distance to use guns if needed.  Once he had altitude separations, he would roll the aircraft to put the lift vector of the jet out in front of the defender and below the horizon.  

That would give him an extra G more than the defender would have as the defender wants to keep the offensive guy as close as possible.  Turning room is everything for the guy on offense.

Without going to much more details, this had been the way air to air was fought since the Korean War.  Probably all the way back to WWI in the mechanics of it.  I don't know, ask Sarge, he was there in that one.

Now, Now, Sarge, just kiddin'

When I got to F-15 RTU (F-15 school), I thought I was pretty good at air to air.  My primary mission in my previous 3 assignments had been air to mud, but we did a bit of air to air just in case.  

My first F-15 ride taught me a lot.  First, an afterburner takeoff in the Eagle can put you behind the aircraft in a heartbeat if you're not ready.  If you are ready, it's a blast!  You just got to remember that the instant you're airborne, put the gear up or the gear doors might be left behind.  Right after that, pull the stick back until you're pointed just about straight up.  Otherwise, well, the people on the ground might not like that sonic boom thing you got going on behind you.

Second, when my IP/Flight Lead got us out to the area and set us up for the first BFM engagement, he went out front on defense.  He called "fight's on" and I started my tried and true tactic.  Slight turn into him, AB lit, climb a bit above him, just like a thousand times before.

Except, he pulled to the G limit with AB lit and I was above him and basically even with him fore and aft.  Very shortly thereafter, I was looking over my shoulder at somebody pointed at me.

We had a short air to air debrief as we got set up for the second engagement.  I did better, I wasn't out front, however I was looking out the side of the canopy at him.  He then demonstrated the slow speed scissors  capability of the Eagle.

Source

 

Something I also didn't know.  Pretty soon I was looking over my shoulder again.

Another short air to air debrief, set up again and...well, I'm learning.  We do end up in a slow speed scissors but we were neutral.  Betty* hollered at me, so I glanced at my fuel gauge and called knock it off, I was at Bingo Fuel.  Meaning I had to go home as I was low on fuel.

Debrief was long, but educational.  I had a rematch scheduled for the next day.  I did better.

I did well enough thereafter to graduate and get to my F-15 Base at Kadena AB Okinawa.  This was in the Reagan years, flight time was abundant.  There were a lot of very experienced Eagle Drivers in the squadron.  I learned to listen to them.  (To be sure, there were some F-15 Pilots there also.  Good at instrument flying, not much else.)

 The place/operation I really learned to fly the Eagle was Cope Thunder.  This was the Pacific's version of Red Flag.  It was an full scale aerial war game.  By full scale, I mean, there could be about a hundred airplanes in the airspace during any one mission.  The airspace wasn't all that big, so it got crowded quick.

But, it was very instructive and I learned a lot.  After a few exercises, I was fairly confident that if the NORK's wanted to vacation in the south, their Air Force would be non-existent very quickly.

All good things must come to an end.  I got orders to Army Command and Staff.  Shortly after arrival, I got called into the Commander's office and notified that one of the members of the Flight I commanded had been killed in a mid-air collision at Cope Thunder.

That took a lot of air out of me.

Unfortunately, Kadena was the last time I flew as a pilot.  Dream about it often, miss it a lot. If I got to do it over, I wouldn't do anything different.  Well...Except warn Rocket about keeping his head on a swivel so he wouldn't hit anything.

Peace out, Y'all! 




*Betty is the somewhat affectionate name for a verbal warning of various serious conditions i.e low fuel, engine fire, over stressing the aircraft etc.

 

28 comments:

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    1. StB,
      Thanks. Fortunately, I didn't have to do my mission for real. In the grand scheme of things, that's probably a good thing. In the back of my brain there lurks the thought "How good would you have been if it was for real?" Don't have an answer for that.
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  2. Those first "uniforms" in that vid, are they trying to make people throw up?! Wonder how much flight time is available now for pilots juvat, see a little over 400 Eagles still flying if WIKI is believable with the F35 coming into prevalence now.

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    1. Nylon,
      They really are ugly aren't they?
      I don't know about flight time nowadays. I suspect it's not as much as the simulators are supposed to be fabulous. But...the good news is you can't get killed in a sim. The bad news is the risk factor in actual flight is an excellent part of training. One tends to think things through when attempting a maneuver that might not work.
      "My" Eagle is still flying although She's got a NASA paint scheme now.
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  3. Love the Spitfire on the wall!

    USAF Band Uniforms, tacky as Hell, very Space Force-like.

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    1. Sarge,
      Yeah, I inherited that from my Dad. Speaking thereof, the right hand F-86 picture the guy in the slot is my Dad. I think he was also in one of the jets in the picture on the left, can't remember for sure, though.
      Those uniforms ARE pretty gagly aren't they?
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  4. Uniforms are articles of clothing whose mission is to keep a multitude of bodies decent in mixed company. ALL uniforms look much better on the hanger then on the body. Ask any gal who was ever a bridesmaid. Trying to find a style that fits wide tall skinny short bodies, or any combination thereof, equally and well, is nigh on impossible. My nursing uniform we had to wear in school, same deal. Plus they were made from polyester, so hot as hell, especially when running around on a hospital floor.
    The only uniforms which look half-way decent on are the ones which are custom tailored to each individual body, and they are few and far between!
    In the clip above, there is a gal who looks to be about 4 foot and a smidge standing next to a fellow who looks to be about 6 foot and a bit. Tough to fit both.
    The good thing about a uniform is when you have a very lousy day, and the uniform gets trashed/filthy dirty with various assorted fluids, if it doesn't come clean, you don't feel so bad if ya have to toss it in the trash.

    Suz

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    1. Suz,
      Can't disagree. The first half of my career the uniform 98% of the time was flight suit. Not the best looking uniform, but comfortable. Lots of pockets. One zipper from neck to crotch (a top and a bottom zip thingamabob, just in case). Pen/pencil pockets on both shoulders, map pockets on both ankles. Wicked sweat away from your body and evaporated, so kept you cool.
      Then I went to school. Short sleeve light blue shirt. Had to be ironed every day. Dark blue pants made from some nylon like fabric. Hard to keep neat and clean. But, you could put your Class A Coat with fruit salad of ribbons on it. That was good for telling who had "Been There, Done That" and those who sat in Headquarters and kissed, well you know what!
      Still got one of my flight suits. Saving it for what I want to wear when I'm greeting the Lord.
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  5. Thanks for The Grand Tour, Juvat.

    Is there an typical "flying time" for pilots (to your point, you flew 12 to 13 years if my math is more or less correct, then went elsewhwere)?

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    1. THBB,
      My pleasure.
      The lucky ones get to go back to flying after a staff tour/school. That's the good news. The bad news is they usually retire as a Major or maybe a Lt Colonel.
      Fortunately, I flew the Eagle when Reagan was President. After I went to School and a Staff tour, the military was in a drawdown and flying slots, unless you were slated for command, were few and far between for Majors and Lt Colonels. With few exceptions, the people slated for command were good at paperwork and couldn't fly a jet worth a darn. It's been 25 years since I retired from the AF, I think they're going through another round of that BS nowadays.
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  6. one word re uniforms:
    re-conceptualize

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    1. Boron,
      No kidding! My recommendation would be change their uniform to the official uniform of the Juvat Boys Choir, of which I was a member. I thought we looked pretty snazzy in our flight suits, all baggy and sweat stained, but the audience loved us. Course it was almost all guys, either aircrew or folks directly supporting the mission. Oh yeah, and there were a few very popular female nurses.
      Almost certainly, that would not be approved nowadays!
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    2. x2
      designated/required wear in all NCO/O clubs (CONUS - even DC) as well

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    3. Boron,
      I don't think there's enough O2 in the DC area to handle the level of hyperventilation that would occur. Better to exclude DC and let the fools wonder in the dark about what's going on in the real world.
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  7. Bit of a Debbie Downer mode this morning. Look at all that senior NCO insignia in that picture. You see that in band videos of all branches. Undoubtedly there is a good reason. Make E-8, E-9 tooting a horn? Doesn't seem right somehow.

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    1. WSF,
      My former personnel officer wife said exactly the same thing. Very rank heavy. E-8's and E-9's are supposed to be in leadership positions, not tooting on a horn or singing the Air Force Song. Or any song for that matter, well...maybe in the shower, but that shouldn't factor on their performance report.
      Whaddu I know though?
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  8. BARF! The USAF Band costumes are a clown convention. Army Band only slightly better. Navy Band is good, they wear actual sailor suits, not Hollyweird stuff. The Marine Corps Band is freaking awesome!

    But, yeah, one's military career fades only slowly in one's mind, but in reality it may be unbelievably long ago. I've been retired longer than I served, but it seems like only yesterday. Like you, I'd do it again.
    JB

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    1. JB,
      I agree, although I think they look more like R2D2 robots painted blue. Haven't seen the other service's bands, but have no doubt about your assesment of the Marine Band.
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  9. From what I understood talking with Navy Band personnel long (long) ago, it was more a pay issue than leadership, since many musicians were direct accessions. Had to be competitive with orchestras, etc. in order to get talent.

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    1. Anon,
      Interesting! I suspect a similar program applies to Medical Personnel, although, frankly, I have less concern with them getting direct accessions and other. benifits than I do a Band or Choir.
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  10. Uniforms: Reminds me of bellhop uniforms. Ya'll are never gonna look as good as us with our choker-whites!

    Flying: I might have gotten airsick looking at those maneuver diagrams- BFM was not my favorite part of flight school, so I'm glad I chose/was assigned a less tactical aircraft. The Viking was a better jet for NFOs anyway. Outside of Pensacola and 2 stints in the RAG (FRS), 2 flying tours at the boat was enough. I could have done an instructor tour in P'cola, but preferred shore duty in San Diego. Wouldn't have my house otherwise, so it all worked out.

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    1. Tuna,
      “Bellhop uniforms” for the win!
      Exactly!
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  11. Anon is correct. The pay has to be E-8/9 level to be comparable to civilian orchestra pay. And that is all services 'official' bands. Re the flying, 7000 hours in P-3s, through five generations of the airframe/equipment. And yes, I would do it again if I could. Us old farts DO remember how to chase actual subs... sigh

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    1. Old NFO,
      I had about 2500 hours. But it was usually 1-1.5 each. The deployment from Moody to ROK was three 10+ hour hops strapped into an ejection seat. Man was my “you know what” sore!
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    2. 7K hours! Lots of years flying, and much of that "commuting" to work I'd guess- long transits, coupled with long onstation times. TACCOs and NAVCOMs never got a break though.

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    3. Tuna,
      Yep it is. Hours of Boredom interspersed with minutes of excitement, I would think. The guys in the back at least have a job to do. The guys up front? A takeoff, a bit of refueling, an instrument approach and a landing. I could be wrong, but...
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  12. Those are the new dress blues? Geesh....they look like bellhops......

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