Well, the weather down here hasn't been as bad as a lot of other places, Temperatures right at freezing when we wake up. Been topping out in the high 40's . Forecast for this week is highs in the 60's and 70's and lows in the 30's and 40'. Had icy roads when this front first came through, but they cleared up by lunch. So not a really big deal, most people stayed home for a day or at least a morning. Not a lot of meat in that for a posting.
So, anyhow I re-posted a tale from 5 years ago, flying related. Hope you enjoy it.
...Abundance of Caution
Abundance of Caution. I've only spoken those words once in my life. I was a student pilot early in the T-37 phase of pilot training. The syllabus for the ride I was scheduled to fly that day included "Introduction to Spins and Spin Recovery." This was generally considered the least favorite mission in the entire syllabus. One would take an airplane up and intentionally put it out of control, spinning in flat circles with unexpected pitch up and down moments all the while falling out of the sky. Literally, the aircraft was no longer flying. On this flight, I was scheduled with an IP whose callsign was IronMan. He had been an F-105 pilot with a couple of tours you know where.
Been there, done that, got all the respect that he deserved. But...He didn't put up with much BS, you either knew your S*** and executed it properly or you didn't pass the ride. And...
You re-flew it with him!
So, we're in the briefing for the mission. He asks me to recite the bold faced Emergency Procedure for Spin Recovery.
Bold Faced procedures are required to be memorized perfectly, down to the punctuation and spacing. Students would be selected at the Flight Briefing at the start of the flying period (as opposed to academic period) and given a hypothetical flying situation. Most required bold face. If the bold face was incorrect (e.g. not perfect), the student would be told "Sit Down!" and he'd be grounded for the day.
That tended to mark you for further inquiry if you actually "Knew your S***" or were just bluffing.
I manage to recite the spin recovery procedure to IronMan successfully.
Throttles – Idle
Rudder and Ailerons – Neutral
Stick – Abruptly full aft and hold
Rudder – Abruptly apply full rudder opposite spin direction (opposite turn needle) and hold
Stick – Abruptly full forward one turn after applying rudder
Controls – Neutral after spinning stops and recover from dive
Yes, 47 years after the fact, I did that from memory. Although I confirmed the accuracy here. (A short post with some additional entertaining commentary, go read it. I'll wait.)
So, IronMan and I start to talk about the mission and how we'll go about it. He'll demonstrate the first spin and recovery then it'll be me.
Suffice it to say, I'm nervous.
You might understand why.
Airborne, we set up for the spin. Ironman has the throttles at about 80% and the nose about 45o high. The stall warning horn is going off like crazy, the airplane is shaking and finally stalls. Ironman then steps on a rudder as it stalls to induce yaw.
My eyes are about as big as basketballs now.
He holds the controls as they are for three complete turns.
I now have a good idea how long eternity is.
He executes the bold face, the aircraft recovers in a dive and he smoothly pulls it out of that. Hands it over to me. We climb back up
I pull the throttles back, nose up, it stalls and pitches down. I immediately do the bold face and recover.
He snatches the aircraft from me asks me "WTF was that?" I said, "out of an abundance of caution I thought I'd try an easy one first."
He replied "My Aircraft". We flew home and landed. I've busted my first & last ride in UPT.
He said a pilot can and must use caution in performing the mission. However, accomplishing the mission is his first priority and too much caution is not acceptable. One is always at risk when flying.
He then went and scratched out the student he was flying with that afternoon and wrote my name in.
I was peeved. I'll show this SOB! We get up in the air. He asks if I want him to demo another one.
"NO, sir"
I entered the spin, held it for four turns (I'll show him!) executed the bold face and even managed to recover from the dive without exiting the bottom of the airspace. Which would have been an automatic Flight Safety Bust.
Got back on the ground. Got an excellent on the ride. Found out later that he'd been key to my getting a fighter out of Pilot Training.
We flew a lot more together in the program. I learned a lot from him but having an "Abundance of Caution" was not on the curriculum.
Here's a longer version of Spin Training, but does include what it looks like from another airplane.
So, what brought this up, juvat? Got a little bit behind the power curve on the posting timeline, so had to publish a replay. Why you ask?
Did a walk through of our property Friday with the Builder. He's got the property clearing team ready with the dozers and stuff. They're going to take down a limited number of mature trees and virtually all the undergrowth.
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| Just a tad bit of pruning needed. Let's get started! |
Oh yeah, he's also going to take down the old house and cart that debris away also.
so...just another Manic Monday!
So it begins.
Cheers to all y'all.
juvat

It'll be interesting to see how that arial photo changes when the clearing team gets done juvat. Good to hear your recent weather moderated some, here temps have begun to approach average.
ReplyDeleteNylon, you can be SURE those photos will be published, probably not from the air though.
DeleteGlad things are warming up up there and it continues.
juvat
My thought too Nylon. Looking forward to seeing the change, but that's probably a realtor photo which won't be duplicated after.
DeleteAlthough Google Maps may update in a couple years.
DeleteTuna (1) that absolutely is a realtor's photo. With a little bit of luck (for several reasons e.g. neighbors) the Realtor will take another picture since the property on both side of ours is for sale also.
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Tuna (2) (Has a good ring to it doesn't it?
DeleteI think Google Maps will be the better probability.
juvat
My ex-realtor wife says they subscribe to a service that just takes photos of entire areas that get spliced up for different addresses. Chances are that photo of the other sides are already shot.
DeleteTuna. Yes it is. It’s even more cover than ours. It doesn’t have any structures on it.
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No thanks! How do you not puke during a spin like that?
ReplyDeleteGood to hear that your house build is getting going.
A lot of guys (there weren’t female military pilots back in the stone age when I was in UPT) had a hard time with them. A few withdrew from training. They disappeared from the base quite quickly. The powers that be thought that might start a run on withdrawing. We had a couple in my class that either quit or were washed out.
DeleteSo are we, but we’re quite a ways from move in.
Thanks
juvat
juvat, you impressed key folks in your journey. Vegas was another key person in your journey. A lesson for all of us that we never know when our actions will assist us in our journeys. Will follow the house jouney with keen interest sur!
ReplyDeleteThanks, yep I’ve had a n awful lot of Mentors in my life. Deeply appreciated . (Ok after the fact). Their efforts made me better than I thought I could be. Vegas was certainly one of them.
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I got to do spins in a Citabria once. I loved it. I think that is printed on my soul.
ReplyDeleteWe never know who is a wheel and who is a spoke. I was blamed for a failed rollout of a new data card. Turned out it wasn't tested with our radios. I volunteered to assist in the rework trials. For months I swapped in the device, monitored it's failures and sent it back. Engineering got it right, and the solder mask had a Don't Mess With Texas and a Lone Star added. Got a good review from the people that matter. Couldn't spend it, but I didn't lose it either. Reputation takes time to build and a second to lose.
STxAR,
DeleteWhile in AFROTC, we had a short "Can this person handle an aircraft" in a Cessna 150. (That should tell you how long ago THAT was!). While there was a "Spin Recovery" procedure, the 150 would recover if you just took your hands and feet off the controls, provided, of course you had enough altitude. That was not the case in the T-37. It would remain in the spin until you hit the earth if you didn't use the procedure. Hence the tenseness when this ride was on the schedule with your name on it.
Turns out it was a very important example and test to see if one was suitable for the leading edge of the sword. Given a couple of thousand hours in high performance fighters, I guess I passed that test. Thank you Lord!
Your last sentence above it absolutely true and applies to all aspects of Life. Thanks for reminding me!
juvat
Saw a nice 1969 Cessna 150 aerobat yesterday at local airport (HMT), N8436M.
DeleteEnjoyed reading about your spin training.
Jim
Flying or on the ramp?
Deletejuvat
Back in the day (1960s) as a civilian pilot stalls were to be avoided until landing. Did some spin training while getting my Commercial rating. Did OK, had no interest in doing more. I've always given respect to those of you who did them and unusual attitudes on purpose for fun. The examiner on my Instrument check ride put us in a spin during the head down, hands off the controls, then, "You've got it". Passed the check ride so I must have done it correctly.
ReplyDeleteWSF,
DeleteYeah, while this was the first and second spin ride, there were multiple others throughout the T-37 curriculum. Got pretty used to them. Almost had one in the F-4, the Bold Face was much the same with one added step, "Deploy Drag Chute". The crew chief knew if you had "Hurt" his airplane if you didn't use the drag chute on landing. That meant you'd screwed up and used it in the air. I brought all mine back. Recovery of an F-4 was much more difficult than the Tweet (T-37) and hence a bit more dangerous.
juvat
I had an instructor in my Private syllabus that insisted on doing spins. The Piper Colt I was training in would not spin no matter how hard you tried, it would just do about a half turn and wind up in a spiral. His solution was to get in the Cherokee 140 and spin it Was a lot of fun. I later did an aerobatics course in a Citabria and learned a lot more about spins. When the Key West club bought a Cessna 150 Aerobat I spent a lot of time in it. Since the practice area was not far from the airfield I would use spins to get down to pattern altitude quickly.
ReplyDeleteFlugleman, now THAT’S an interesting approach procedure! ;-)
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During training for my Private ticket I insisted on spin training. Didn't want to be in my first spin and then going what the heck do I do. Turns out I never utilized the training for real but had it in my hip pocket if needed.
DeleteSounds like an excellent plan! You don’t need it til you need it, then you need it BAD! Good on ya!
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Some people like chocolate ice cream and others like vanilla, and some like both. I'm not a fan of anything involving loss of contact with the surface of the earth. Not into aviating, or diving or cave exploration. Hurray for those who do, and develop the special skills required. I'll happily wander about terra/aqua firma while you do your thing, and we can head to the bar to listen to your somewhat factual tales afterwards.
ReplyDeleteGood to see steady progress on nuevo casa.
JB
JB,
DeleteSomewhat FACTUAL??? Why that's the honest truth! Especially after a round or two.! ;-)
juvat
Heh.
DeleteHeh! Now THAT'S the honest truth!
Deletejuvat
Yee haw! Ride 'em, Cowboy! And yes, EPs were absolutely required in the Navy too!
ReplyDelete"Yee Haw! " is right!
DeleteI suspect it's very similar in most "air forces" in the world.
juvat