Tuesday, July 2, 2019

Gettysburg, Some Thoughts

Little Round Top
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In the middle of June in the year 1863, the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia crossed into the state of Maryland, beginning the Confederacy's second, and last, invasion of the United States. On the first day of July, near the small town of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, the Confederate States Army of Northern Virginia, under the command of Robert E. Lee, and the United States Army of the Potomac, under the command of George G. Meade, met in battle.

The Army of the Potomac numbered 93,921 men, that of the Army of Northern Virginia numbered 71,699. At the end of three days of fighting, 28,063 men from the South and 23,049 men from the North became casualties, dead, wounded, or missing. One in four of those wearing Northern blue, two in five of those wearing Southern gray had shed their blood on that field, in the largest battle ever fought on American soil. 51,118 Americans paid the price.

For what?

The political differences which caused the southern states to leave the Union had existed long before Confederate cannon opened fire on Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor in April of 1861. I don't pretend to understand the full extent of those differences. There were many.

The balance of power between the Southern states and the Northern states in Congress was a key concern in the South. As Northern population grew, they would gain seats proportionally in the House of Representatives, however, as long as the number of states was equal, or leaned towards Southern interests, the Senate would favor the South. Or at the least not favor the North.

It boiled down, in many minds, to the issue of slavery. As new states entered the union the South wanted a balance of "free" and "slave" states. Figuring, quite rightly I suppose, that a "slave" state would lean more towards Southern interests and not Northern. While slavery was not "the" issue which led to the war, it played a major part. In reality, it was a struggle for power in the Nation's capital which led to the war.

What should we call this war in North America from April of 1861 to April of 1865? Some have argued that "Civil War" is inaccurate as the South did not wish to displace or change the existing system of government, they simply wanted no further part in that government. (An idea which I have only recently accepted, with thanks to Borepatch in his post.)

I don't like the term "War of Northern Aggression," for various reasons. The main one being is that the South wished to dissolve the Union and many in the North refused to accept that. They saw their cause as putting down an unlawful rebellion. Right or wrong, that's how it was perceived in the North by many.

The South's cause was tainted by the issue of slavery, as many Southerners of the time acknowledged. While it is possible that the "Peculiar Institution" may have eventually "gone away" of its own accord, I highly doubt it. Exploitation of the common laborer in the North didn't go away until the early years of the 20th Century and didn't happen without a great deal of violence. To think that slavery would have eventually withered away, on its own, is, perhaps, problematic. Greed never goes away. Eventually those held in thrall would have risen up and started trying to free themselves. No doubt with Northern help. No doubt with great violence as well.

As for the "War for Southern Independence"? Sure, why not, but as it failed, I prefer "The Rebellion." But that's just me. (Just don't call it the "Second American Revolution," that glorifies a somewhat tawdry cause.)

So Gettysburg. Why Gettysburg?

By 1863 it was obvious to the South that the North wasn't just going to quit, not without a huge effort on the part of the various Confederate armies in the field. The most important of those armies was Lee's Army of Northern Virginia. While I'm sure the Confederate armies in the West might dispute that, their string of defeats at the hands of Northern armies weakens their arguments for being "most important." The Army of Northern Virginia had gone from victory to victory for quite some time, Antietam (their first invasion of the North) being the sole "bump in the road" of their dominance of the Army of the Potomac.

Lee moved north for various reasons: (1) supply issues, northern Virginia, where most of the fighting took place, was devastated, (2) depress Northern morale, which may have actually worked had CNN been in operation back then, (3) a quest for foreign recognition. While the idea of Great Britain or France recognizing the Confederacy was something of a pipe dream, the British did support the South for their own economic reasons. But support a regime supported, in part, by slavery, the British would have never been able to stomach that.

So Lee moved north as his cavalry leader Stuart galloped off to make headlines. The Army of Northern Virginia went north without its eyes. They stumbled into the fight, thinking they were facing militia. Actually they were facing very good cavalrymen under John Buford. Buford's men held the ground long enough for the rest of the Army of the Potomac to coalesce. Oddly enough, the Army of the Potomac moved into the area around Gettysburg from the south (advancing up from the Washington DC area) and Lee's army moved in from the north and the west.

The first day's fighting was brutal and see-sawed back and forth, though Lee's often ragged and barefoot men eventually drove the Federals back in some disarray. But Meade's army gathered and occupied the ridge and hills south of the town and awaited Lee's attacks.

On this particular day, the 2nd of July, 156 years ago, an obscure colonel by the name of Chamberlain, commanding the 20th Maine Volunteer Infantry Regiment, stood atop that outcrop in the opening photo, along with his men, and drove back every attack thrown at them.

The position had been chosen by this man -

Brigadier General Gouverneur Kemble Warren,
US Army Corps of Engineers
While Chamberlain receives most of the glory for the Union stand atop Little Round Top, and rightly so, most do not remember that it was General Warren who recognized the importance of the position and got the troops there to do the job. (The general was later unjustly disgraced on the field of another battle by Phil Sheridan, a general I have never cared for, but that is a story for another time.)

Statue of Brigadier General G.K. Warren atop Little Round Top
Lee's failure to turn the Union left flank at the Round Tops led him to throw the dice in a different place on the 3rd of July. Tested on their right, then tested on their left, the Federals had held their ground, barely.

Surely they must be weak in their center? So Lee may have thought. Pickett's division discovered that they had not been weakened in the center. That charge collapsed in red ruin, and with it the hopes and dreams of Southern Independence.

Though in reality, that dream had been struck a mortal blow in May of that very year, when Lieutenant General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson died of his wounds after the Battle of Chancellorsville. Shot down by his own men when his party had been mistaken for Union cavalrymen.

Just a few thoughts, occasioned by the anniversary of one of the most eventful battles in American history...



46 comments:

  1. One of my favorite movies is Gettysburg. Jeff Daniels(for all of his faults) is awesome as Colonel Chamberlain.

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  2. Very good. As a Southerner, i have always used "The War Between the States" when not jabbing Northerners with the "War of Yankee Aggression" (usually in jest).

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    1. Thanks Cap'n. I'm not a fan of the whole "War Between the States" thing, it sorta fits, but not quite. I think I'll be sticking with "The Rebellion" for now.

      ;)

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  3. So as not to offend any Damyankees in attendance I will refer to the recent unpleasantness. I am currently in Maine and one of my required stops is to honor Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain who lies in a quiet cemetery in Brunswick just a short walk from Bowdoin College where he was a professor, and from his home. On this day in 1863 Chamberlain and the men of the 20th Maine prevented the Confederacy from controlling the heights at Little Round Top. The importance of that cannot be ignored. Had Lee been able to place artillery atop Little Round Top he would have been able to control the entire battlefield. If nothing else, Chamberlain epitomizes the concept of the Citizen Soldier.

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    1. He did indeed. He also did great honor to the Army of Northern Virginia at the surrender of that army. Ordered his troops to present arms for their fellow Americans. A good man, a man of honor.

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  4. I worked with a Pickett. He was direct kin. We had lots of interesting talks. The courage of the soldiers of that time was immeasurable. Tactics lagged behind technology, and the results were horrific. Yet they still fought. My mind clanks up when I think about the thousands that fought on those fields.

    My whole outlook on slavery changed when I read in the Torah, that if you steal a man, then sell him into slavery, you deserve to die. I figure that starts with your neighbors that stole you and sold you, all the way to the buyer. And I do believe that we would have ended slavery peacefully at some point. It was a great SIN, and it is still yielding fruit today. Biblical "slavery" had protections for the slave and limits to the time of service. American slavery (and the current slavery in the mideast) was/is an abomination.

    I don't know of another contract that you enter into that you can't ever get out of. Even if the other party abuses you and changes the terms of the contract unilaterally. Even our Declaration of Independence states that it is the consent of the governed that lends validity to the government. I doubt that those that ratified the Constitution would have done so if they knew that they would never have an "out" if things went wrong. Our whole institution of the Experiment in Liberty was an "out".

    Adding to the difficulty of perspective is our (my own included) tendency to see things through the lens of today. At the time of the Great Unpleasantness, South Carolina owned Fort Sumter. The Federals occupied it. We don't think like that now, especially since the .gov owns so much of our country currently.

    It's a Gordian knot with a place for everyone to validate their point of view. If I were to judge the outcome of the war, instead of what started it, I'd see it as a watershed in our history that gave rise to an increasingly intrusive, over-reaching, unconstitutional government. We are living now where our founders warned us we would go, if we left first principles. Heck, we have barely hung on to states having their own.... character.

    In my mind, we were on this track anyway. The supreme court gave itself extra constitutional power in 1803. We just ran faster after 1850, and started sprinting in the 1860's.

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    1. Interesting points STxAR. Can't say I agree with all of them, but you make your points well.

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    2. South Carolina most certainly did not own Ft. Sumter. It was ceded to the Federal government in a resolution passed by the South Carolina State Legislature on Dec. 21, 1836.

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  5. Mention Gettysburg, sure enough on the bookshelves found the Gettysburg Trilogy from Harry W. Pfanz. For ten years he was park historian there, being a WWII Army vet himself. Gettysburg The Second Day was his first effort, at 600 pages including Appendix, Notes, Bibliography and Index.....small print too. Good book while his second was Gettysburg Culp's Hill & Cemetery Hill and the last was Gettysburg-The First Day. All three printed by the University of North Carolina Press and in fine shape despite the oldest being over thirty years old.

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  6. As a side note....Slavery is still going on, lot's of slaves world wide today.

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    1. Yes indeed. But not (legally) in the United States. Remember, most of the rest of the planet sucks.

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    2. I beg to differ. There have been lots of chattel slavery cases brought up in very heavily dem controlled cities, and the slavers usually get off with little to no charges, and then get right back to chattel slavery again.

      If the government doesn't condone it to the fullest extent of the law, then the government allows it, semi-legally.

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    3. So your contention is that chattel slavery is legal in dem-controlled cities? It may be de facto but certainly not de jure. Which was my point.

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    4. If the lawmakers and law enforcers don't enforce it, and allow it 'because culture, then, yes, slavery is still legal.

      In the rest of the USA, yes, slavery is illegal and is enforced as illegal. Not so much amongst 'ethnics,' which was my point.

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    5. Ah, but I knew that.

      Picking at nits I am...

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  7. I have always been struck by the parallels of Gettysburg and Pearl Harbor. Both were rolls of the dice to strike a major blow early on to turn the tide. Similar fatal miscalculations as well.

    It was a near thing--

    "Wallace's most notable service came on Saturday, July 9, 1864 at the Battle of Monocacy part of the Valley Campaigns of 1864. Although Confederate General Jubal A. Early and an estimated 15,000 troops defeated Wallace's troops at Monocacy Junction, Maryland, forcing them to retreat to Baltimore, the effort cost Early a chance to capture Washington, D.C.[81] Wallace's men were able to delay the Confederate advance toward Washington for an entire day, giving the city time to organize its defenses. Early arrived in Washington at around noon on July 11, two days after defeating Wallace at Monocacy, the northernmost Confederate victory of the war,[82] but Union reinforcements had already arrived at Fort Stevens to repel the Confederates and force their retreat to Virginia.[83]"

    Wiki link--

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Wallace

    Lew Wallace later wrote a book: 'Ben-Hur'.

    I have also read Grant's memoirs. During the Mexican-American War in 1846, Grant, Lee, Meade, and so many others all served together wearing United States Army blue.

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    1. Well, the invasion of Pennsylvania was two years into the war, dang near right in the middle. But it was a roll of the dice, Lee was overconfident in his men's ability, Meade wasn't the incompetent his predecessors were.

      Ah yes, Lew Wallace and Ben Hur, I should read that book sometime, I did enjoy the movie.

      The list of junior officers in the Mexican War reads like a Who's Who of later generals in The Rebellion.

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    2. I think Gettysburg has more parallels to the Battle of Midway than with Pearl Harbor. Both were turning point victories in retrospect, but still with a lot of fighting and blood yet to be shed. Both could also have easily have gone the other way too.

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  8. Fascinating too, that as the first shots of Gettysburg began on the morning of July 2nd, the final push was being made at Vickburg which would result in General Pemberton surrendering the city on July 4th. In retrospect, with the Confederacy effectively split in two by the Mississippi River and their Northern expansion ended, their dreams of a separate country were effectively dead on America's 87th birthday. But it sure took a hell of a toll in lives over the next two years for the participants to mostly come to that conclusion.

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    1. Very true. CSA's only hope was for the North to tire of the fight. Which was a close run thing.

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  9. Family historians have spent a lot of effort documenting participation in that war. Maternal side, a man from Wisconsin who was in the Iron Brigade. Paternal side, three in the 1st Colorado at Glorieta Pass. Makes you look at the war at the micro level.

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    1. Paternal Great Grandfather was at First Bull Run, 22nd NY.

      A maternal great granduncle served in the 7th NH.

      Both survived the war.

      Certainly does make you look at the war from a different perspective.

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  10. The causes were legion, from actual real issues to imagined slights and rude stares, and a few beat-downs in the hallowed halls of Congress itself.

    I have liked calling it "The Great Unpleasantness" as everyone seems to have an opinion, which may be based on real issues to imagined slights and rude stares, and I've had enough beat-downs, thank you very much.

    "The Rebellion" is too... vague. Shays already had a rebellion, back in 1786-1787, over taxes in Massachusetts and lack of representation thereof, so things obviously haven't changed much since 1787. Then there's the Whiskey Rebellion in 1791-1794, again over taxes and lack of representation thereof, and the then immature FedGov sending in troops to enforce FedGovRules, so things obviously haven't changed much since 1794.

    Mayhaps "The Great Rebellion of 1861 to 1865," though a mouthful, would better describe it. Especially amongst us history nerds, geeks and dweebs. Else, well, lest slights and rude stares be given, and a few beat-downs thrown around for fun.

    What always truly saddened me about the War was that, for the most part, those actually fighting it accepted the results one way or another. It was the people not involved in fighting that seemed to want to carry a grudge, especially after the assassination and then the implementation of "Reconstruction," which to may southerners looked like instead of shaking hands and getting on with life after losing, was more a continued beat-down and wholesale lootery (I just made a word up! Lootery - the widespread and systematic looting of a geographical area.)

    Shameful. So much promise after the battles were finally over, to be dashed by spiteful vindictiveness.

    Which then, of course, led to the Dems forming the KKK and other wonderful things.

    Lesson. When you strike your enemy down, either finish him off completely or give him your hand in friendship. Never do both at the same time.

    Good post. Classic 'Sarge' in it's easy and thoughtful way of expressing a complex situation that makes sense and provokes... thought and discussion.

    Jolly good, old chap!

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    1. Thanks Beans.

      I knew about the other two rebellions but as they already had names, I went with The Rebellion. Now of course if (when?) we have another, then I might rethink that.

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  11. Some things never change...(scroll down for plain text)

    https://www.tsl.texas.gov/exhibits/civilwar/documents/1864/ar_roessler_mar9_1864.html

    Anton R. Roessler was my maternal grandmother's grandfather. So far, I'm not aware of anyone else in my family tree serving on either side. My wife is up to her eyeballs on Ancestry.com, and her roots run to the deep south. We shall see.

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    1. Fascinating, what's in our family histories.

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    2. Some great Grandaddy on dad's side died in Virginia of dysentery, buried in Arlington's grey area (oral history) and great grandad on mom's got captured at Corinth MS, paroled from an Ohio prison camp, and walked to Fort Worth. The stories about the North's hospitality rivaled the South's worst. I got to hold his walking stick when I was a teenager. Dad's side had land from Revolutionary war service that was repurposed for Carpetbagger use. They lost everything and started over in Texas. It was ugly on both ends of that stick. Like Beans said, either a hand in brotherhood or bury them all.

      Reconstruction looks a lot like Chinese kungfu movies. Injustice resulting in revenge resulting in.......... ad infinitum.

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    3. Reconstruction will be a stain on the North forever.

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    4. Actually, if the majority of the North would just acknowledge what they did, the majority of Southerners would get over it. For the most part.

      It's the smugness of the "We Won, get over it" people who tend to be much more bigoted and racist than most southerners that peeves the great majority of southerners off.

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    5. Most of the North could give a fig what the carpetbaggers did, as most of 'em are ignorant of those days. More's the pity. The real problem was, is, and always will be idiot politicians and rapacious businessmen out to gain a buck by whatever means necessary.

      Both North and South. Ain't no apologies to be made on either side, the guilty are long dead.

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  12. Trying to remember from which book this memory came...will have to search my book shelves tonight.

    During the Mexican-American War, Captain Robert E. Lee once severely chastised a Lieutenant for the Lt's slovenly appearance and unkempt uniform...Lieutenant Ulysses S. Grant.

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    1. Old Sam always was kinda casual in his dress!

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  13. Good post, good comments; thanks all.

    Thanks for the post.
    Paul L. Quandt

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    1. Thanks Paul.

      (Back to Any Mouse? The "wonders" of Teh Google.)

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  14. "When Camargo was reached, we found a city of tents outside the Mexican hamlet. I was detailed to act as quartermaster and commissary to the regiment. The teams that had proven abundantly sufficient to transport all supplies from Corpus Christi to the Rio Grande over the level prairies of Texas, were entirely inadequate to the needs of the reinforced army in a mountainous country. To obviate the deficiency, pack mules were hired, with Mexicans to pack and drive them. I had charge of the few wagons allotted to the 4th infantry and of the pack train to supplement them. There were not men enough in the army to manage that train without the help of Mexicans who had learned how. As it was the difficulty was great enough. The troops would take up their march at an early hour each day. After they had started, the tents and cooking utensils had to be made into packages, so that they could be lashed to the backs of the mules. Sheet-iron kettles, tent-poles, and the mess chests were inconvenient articles to transport in that way. It took several hours to get ready to start each morning, and by the time we were ready some of the mules first loaded would be tired of standing so long with their loads on their backs. Sometimes one would start to run, bowing his back and kicking up until he scattered his load; others would lie down and try to disarrange their loads by attempting to get on the top of them by rolling on them; others with tent-poles for part of their loads would manage to run a tent-pole on one side of a sapling while they would take the other. I am not aware of ever having used a profane explicative in my life; but I would have the charity to excuse those who may have done so, if they were in charge of a train of Mexican pack mules at the time."

    2Lt U.S. Grant
    Camargo, Mexico
    August, 1846

    Excerpt from Ulysses S. Grant—Memoirs and Selected Letters

    ISBN 978-0-94045058-5

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  15. Nice write up, Sarge. I’ve often thought that the South had every right to secede because where in the constitution does it say once you are a member of United States you are there for good?

    I remember years ago when watching the series the Civil War Shelby Steele said something to me I thought profound.
    Before the war of the United States was considered to be a voluntary confederation. After the war of the term United States meant one entity.


    I thought the book the killer angels was excellent. The author took facts and then put in fictional but probable conversations among the key players

    On the issue of Maryland and the first invasion wasn’t Maryland like Kentucky in that half of it was for the south and the other half for the north? Even West Virginia where my mother was born was broken off from Virginia-I’m told Lincoln he needed to be in the rail road-but it was the counties in the north around Pennsylvania that were for the north where as the counties towards Kentucky favored the south.

    On the issue of Maryland and the first invasion wasn’t Maryland like Kentucky in that half of it was for the south and the other half for the north? Even West Virginia where my mother was born was broken off from Virginia-I’m told Lincoln I needed the Biondo rail road-but it was the counties in the north around Pennsylvania that were for the north whereas the counties towards Kentucky favored the south

    Back with the famous feud of the Hatfields and McCoy‘s one of the families was originating from a returning confederate army

    As far as slavery I think Lincoln would’ve been glad to have kept the institution if you could’ve save the union at less cost. I forget why he issued the Emancipation Proclamation but I remember the politics was far deeper than simply freeing the slaves

    And people tend to forget these days that Americans first allegiance was usually to their state. Robert E Lee thought as a Virginian

    He elected to fight for the confederacy because he considered himself a proud Virginian.

    You ask the typical historically deficient American today what was the most costly war we have ever fought most will say World War II. If you will even say Vietnam

    I think almost as many or more were killed at Antietam as the whole Vietnam war

    Most costly war of course was our Civil War not even taking in account population differences by far more were killed in that war than any other war

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    1. The Rebellion was our bloodiest war. Approximately 750,000 dead for both sides. In all of our other wars combined, slightly over 700,000 dead.

      That's dead, doesn't count the wounded.

      Individual battles from WWII and WWI were far deadlier than Gettysburg, which falls about in the middle of the list.

      The Meuse-Argonne Campaign was the worst, with 26,277 dead (not wounded, dead).

      The battles of the Bulge, Okinawa, and the Huertgen Forest all saw more dead than at Gettysburg.

      As far as total casualties, Antietam was the bloodiest: 22,726 killed (3,675), wounded, and missing.

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  16. I’m sorry this stupid voice transcription did some duplication above but hopefully you can get the gist

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  17. Been to Gettysburg, it was an awe inspiring experience. Also really liked the movie, felt so bad for Chamberlain (Jeff Daniels) when they got moved to the center of the line for rest, knowing what was coming. You can feel the spirits there, very similar feeling when I visited Dachau in Munich. Thought provoking and well written, thanks!

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