Monday, May 26, 2025

It's Monday! Pop Quiz Time!

 Quiz time, Campers! and Answers below!

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What do these two aircraft have in common? Put your answer in the comments.

Hint: There are a lot of "Close but no Cigars" answers but only one gets the much sought after "Worthless Trivia Challenge of the Week Winner" Title.  Answer has been added below.

Now…On with the show!

Update on  The Brown Recluse episode. Swelling is down substantially. Still wearing a bandage, not really needed for bleeding or oozing, rather to protect my hand when I bash it against something. Dr's follow up visit is Wednesday first thing. Black and red areas are substantially reduced also. So, maybe...

Speaking thereof, the bite didn't help in the "getting the House rid of excess crap in prep to put up a for sale" phase of the "Move to College Station" plan.  Most of that phase has been one of three options. 

1) Recycle Center.  Advantage- They unload your vehicle. Disadvantage- You load the vehicle and secure it. Littering is bad, doncha know. Additionally, they don't take just anything, so a careful inventory of the load will save you from having to resecure what's left then figure out how/where to get rid of it.

2) Goodwill. Their website has a list of stuff they will not take. We did that research first. The next good thing...They will unload your vehicle. that's a special advantage trying to move heavy furniture into the store. Yes, Goodwill, my back thanks you profusely.

3) The dump.  They weigh your vehicle when you arrive and again when you leave. No assistance available, but not a lot of items on their "No Dumping" list. 

All three have some level of requirement for the driver to unload or help therein. Not my favorite, especially under the circumstances!

Realtor is coming on Tuesday to inspect. I've heard he wears white gloves while doing this inspection.  We'll see how it turns out. 

And just because



OK The F-4E was tail number 68-461.  The Eagle tail number is 78-564.  In the 80's there was a big sayonara to the Air Force from the fighter pilot community.  The Chief of Staff at the time had flown fighters.  He toured all the bases and found that a large number of pilots were disenchanted.
  
Desk jobs and additional duties (e.g. Snack Bar Officer) took over much of the day.  So they were leaving in droves (and the airlines were hiring). So the Chief put together a team of guys and sat them down to find out what could be done.  Increasing flying hours was a big one of course, reducing additional duties another, and one surprise was brought up by a young LT who' was a big reader of historical flying stories.  
 
He suggested painting a Pilot (and WSO) name on the canopy rail.  Give them a sense of ownership and pride.  It worked.  Aircrew would come out and check on the airplane and crew chief and see if there was anything needed.  Even if it was a steppin fetchit kind of task.  The crew chiefs loved it, because they now had a back door to get things prioritized.  A whispered word to the Pilot who whispered it to his Flight Commander who brought it up in the next meeting with the Squadron Commander who brought it up to the Wing Commander.  A lot of Good Ideas suddenly became reality.
 
Just happened to be looking at Airplane Pics recently,  My Tail Number flying F-4's at Moody was 68-461.  Did a little googling and voila'.  There she was!   Her last assignment was to Terra Haute AB.  Her last flight went to the boneyard.   I would have liked it to be at a Front Gate somewhere.
 
The Eagle, 78-564 was also my airplane while stationed at Kadena.  As far as I can determine, She's still flying last assignment was at Elmendorf AFB AK.   
 
Peace out y'All!  It’s Monday after all!


36 comments:

  1. You have flown both McDonnell Douglas products?

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  2. Two seaters? Good news on the hand, any progress on being able to climb walls and ceilings yet juvat?.......:) Now there's a song I haven't heard in a month of Mondays, those 60's fashions haven't aged well (shudder).

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    1. True, but no banana!

      It’s getting there, still bandaged and very sensitive to touch.
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  3. Um....they have wings, wheels, and empennage!

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    1. Joe

      True, but no banana!

      juvat

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  4. 3 external fuel tanks? Couldn't find the tail code th to see where its based.

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    1. The F-4 was last based at Terre Haut. The Eagle was Elmendorf.
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  5. They are both D models of their respective aircraft.

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    1. Beg to disagree. The Phantom is an E model. “The one with the gun!” The F-4D needed a gun pod to strafe, boresiting the pod for accuracy was difficult and somewhat unreliable. That was not the case with the E. Very accurate.
      However, the Eagle is an F-15 D.
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    2. I was under the impression that the gun was further to the left on th E.

      The bore sighting problem is one of the F-35B and F-35C issues even during design since they use a gun pod. (I worked on the F-35 program.) The F-35A has the gun mounted on the left top just behind the inlet.

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    3. BillB,
      As far as I know, the barrels are mounted on the centerline, although the magazine was probably mounted somewhere there was room, 640 rounds of 20MM can take up a lot of that.
      Interesting about the F-35, Seems we never learn. You don't need a gun, til you need a gun, then you need it bad! And it better damn well be pointed where you your gunsight is pointed. Strafing was difficult for me starting out in the C and D's. Iron gunsight, close to the ground, Firing at 1500' distance 100' above the ground at 450K in the hot desert sun with the thermals and a 1 swcond burst? Yeah, I had a hard time qualifying. F-4E was better. And while I never strafed with the 20MM in the Eagle. That Gun and gunsight combination was quite accurate. First time out to shoot at the towed target air to air, I shot it off. I wish I still had that film.
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    1. True, but no banana!
      juvat

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    2. as well as sidewinders, sparrows and plethora of common air to ground munitions...
      armament would be too easy

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    3. Pawel,
      True!
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  7. As an aside, nice view of an ALQ-119 ECM pod on the F-4. Spent a bit of my life working those, and a derivative, the QRC 80-01

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    1. Yep and I flew with that pod a bunch. My assigned WSO was also an EWO. If a pod was on a jet in the "GO" we were scheduled for, he'd get the jet assigned to us. It was pretty successful, back in the day.
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  8. I "had" a lovely F-102 at Itazuke AB, Fukuoka, Kyushu. Tail 386. I loved the fact that I could fly it now and again. I visited every "duty" day and sometimes on the "alert" days. The only time we had Phantoms "issued" to us was at our ORI. I loved that ugly thing as well.
    No comment as to "snack bar". How do you think I have the callsign "Fuzz"?
    FuzzD4

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    1. Fuzz, Good to hear from you. Webb had an alert facility when dad was flying T-38s there. It had Deuces initially then 106’s. Loved the AB light from each, especially at night. I’d run to the window and watch them go.
      I also learned a lot about flying & employing fighters in old double ugly. Great jet. But, man! The Eagle is so much more capable!
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  9. They are, of course, both MickyD twin engine fighters that you actually flew. Which is what I came up with before I read the rest of the picture.

    Now find a picture of a T-38 that you flew and there'd be three twin engine fighters that you actually flew.

    Hope the casa at Castle Station is still available when you're ready.

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    1. Unfortunately, some higher up put the kabosh on personalizing jets while I was there. Holloman’s retention rate was very low. Then Vegas became Director of ops. Things got a lot better after that.
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    2. That was one of the biggest mistakes they made in Vietnam. Taking away our airplanes. And then to top it all off they went to tail number scheduling how embarrassing when one got shot down and he didn’t come up for a flight of four, so no spare, so evverbuddy buddy check six more.

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    3. D4,
      Gotta say it…Shoe clerks gotta shoe clerk! I wasn’t there for Vietnam, Dad was. A lot of his stories just pissed me off. At that point he
      Wasn’t flying any longer. Base civil engineer for Tan San Nhut. A lot of similar, yet f-in stupid rules. Most of my IPs, both UPT, Lead-in and yRTU were “very experienced” at being a real fighter pilot. Most of the O-6s I encountered were not. I learned that my tactics employed air to air were based on who was in my back seat. I had a very satisfying sortie against the Wing Vice Commander. He very quickly ended up in my gunsight. Damn! It was hard to keep from shouting. I did, but it was hard.
      As I said there are Fighter Pilots and pilots that fly fighters (sometimes not very well).
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  10. Of course you flew them...LOL Sadly, in the VP Navy, we had more crews than birds, so only the CO got his name on a bird. But at least none of the ones you flew are on sticks (yet) outside a base...sigh

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    1. Old NFO,
      I don’t know about the last. My Phantom would be 58 this year And her younger brother, the Eagle, is 48. That’s pretty long in the tooth for fighters!
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  11. So what's the answer? I'm keen to know.

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    1. They both had my name on the canopy rail. The Phantom at Moody and the Eagle at Kadena.
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    2. Not often THAT happens!
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