Pearl Harbor, looking towards the USS Arizona Memorial and the USS Missouri Source |
Why do I say that?
The oil storage tanks weren't hit.
There were no aircraft carriers in Pearl at the time. While most naval officers still considered the battleship to be the most prestigious (and militarily useful) ship, those ships were nearly obsolete in naval terms. The aircraft carrier would quickly supersede the battleship in importance.
So the Japanese sank or damaged eight battleships:
- USS West Virginia
- USS Pennsylvania
- USS California
- USS Tennessee
- USS Maryland
- USS Nevada
- USS Oklahoma
- USS Arizona
Of those warships only USS Oklahoma and USS Arizona never fought again. USS Arizona being completely destroyed on the morning of the 7th of December and USS Oklahoma being eventually written off as too far gone to repair.
So in reality, they only destroyed two battleships. Two, out of eight.
The attack aroused and united the American people as nothing else probably could. (After all, the Germans had torpedoed the USS Reuben James in October of 1941. Where was the outcry over that? As the USS Reuben James was actively engaged in attacking a German U-Boat at the time, when we weren't at war with Germany, no doubt the gubmint didn't want to make a fuss about that.)
Less than four years later, Hiroshima and Nagasaki paid the price for the attack on Pearl Harbor. You might say that the Japanese Empire had "f**ked around and found out."
A comment on one of my older Pearl Harbor posts sparked today's post. Cap'n HMS Defiant mentioned the memorial to the submarine crews still on eternal patrol in the Pacific as a result of World War II. So I went in search of that memorial.
And got sidetracked.
Pearl Harbor in 2024 Source |
The red circle approximates the view point of the yellow circle in the "today" version of the photo.
Pearl Harbor in October 1941 Source |
While preparing to do my annual Pearl Harbor post I reread my older posts. One thing struck me, in all of the pictures I've seen, from ground level, the action seems close in and very focused. Whereas the view I captured in the first photo presents a more open, spread out viewpoint.
Very early in the attack, a Japanese aircrewman took this photo -
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In the photo above, there is very little smoke (note that the red circle marks the approximate area of the viewpoint for the opening photo) and only a couple of Japanese aircraft are readily visible. Now we know that 183 aircraft were involved in the first wave of the attack, but not all of them had the battleships as their target. So not all of them would be in your field of view at the same time.
While the action for those on the ground was focused and very intimate indeed, the bigger picture was more open and spread out. That's what struck me about that opening photo, it gave me a different perspective on the attack. It made me think.
It struck me, after all that musing and thinking, that the attack on Pearl Harbor is slowly receding into the national memory. It is no longer an intimate gut-punch for those who weren't even born until many years later. It's still like that for me because my grandparents and parents lived through that time period.
So many Americans won't even think of those who lost their lives on the anniversary of that day in 1941, nor will they remember to pause and remember the attack itself.
I'm not one of those people.
Remember Pearl Harbor. As we've seen, it could happen again. Not the same of course, but not all that different. After all, 9/11 happened, didn't it?
Remember ...
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History rhymes.
My Great Uncle Larry was on a destroyer at Pearl.
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ReplyDeleteYup, that's the one. I feel though, that the distraction was more interesting. To me at any rate.
DeleteThe elliptical wings make me think Vals.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure of the wing shape at that distance. That being said, I don't imagine a torpedo bomber would be flying like that.
DeleteIt will be interesting to see if the news casts even mention this date Sarge, once the years marched on enough for grandparents to have passed many people no longer remember such an event. How many have forgotten 9/11 already? This date in 1941 my Dad was fourteen months into his hitch with the Army Air Corps, today is a date this old fart won't forget.
ReplyDeleteI was "oot and aboot" all day so I didn't see any news casts, but I'm betting there weren't many, if any, mentions of this date and its significance.
DeleteWhen I was young, a tremendous amount of men that were neighbors, teachers and those working just about anywhere were combat veterans. They all fought in one of the major theaters, and many of the major engagements are immortalized in various movies. Just about all are gone, and their history along with them.
ReplyDeleteI won't forget the significance of December 7, 1941, but my generation is fading, and the current generation of high school graduates weren't even born during the last major attack on U.S. soil. I don't have a lot of confidence they'll understand the significance of that event, or the attack on Pearl Harbor.
The factory I worked in after high school had a lot of vets. I worked with everything from Pacific and European theater infantryman to a PT boat guy in the Pacific and a B-17 waist gunner who was on the Schweinfurt raid. Good men all.
DeleteHeck, even the Vietnam vets are in their 70s and 80s now.
I was born on '53, long after Pearl Harbor. When I was a kid I lived in Hawaii (60-66) and met people who had been there that day, it's a real thing in my mind vs a fact learned in school. Maybe I passed that on to my kids? Maybe not too...
ReplyDeleteThe attack did get all of America going!
Born in '53 as well, Rob. My father (in the AAC) helped build/plan Hickam in '39-40 and I have the 8mm B&W movies (no sound!) documenting that. He NEVER talked about Pearl Harbor. Never. Would not even mention what he did in WWII. He retired as a CWO3 in the AF and was in Photo Interpretation in the last part of his career. Wouldn't talk about that, either.
DeleteRob - '53 for me as well. My parents remembered where they were on that day, much as we remember where we were on 9/11.
DeleteIgor - That's three of us from '53. God bless your Dad for his service.
DeleteMake it four Sarge.....:)
DeleteWe are legion.
DeleteThere may well be a fair amount of smoke in the aircrew picture, just mostly out of frame. Look at black area extreme middle right of the picture. Sure looks like oil fire smoke. Since whatever that black area is appears to also be casting a shadow on the water surface immediately to its left I suspect it is smoke from a burning fuel source.
ReplyDeleteDidn't notice that until you mentioned it. That has to be something on the seaplane base burning. The seaplane base was hit pretty hard.
DeleteMy office, when stationed at Camp Smith HI, was in a building on the top of the front hill on the left of the attack photo. My window there looked down on Pearl and Hickam. First thing I did went I took over was move the desk to the window and faced it outside. Arizona was the center of the scene. Not a day went by when I didn’t think about them. May they be resting in peace.
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May their memories be a blessing.
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ReplyDeletetry substituting 9/11 for "...the attack on Pearl Harbor..." in your paragraph beginning, "It struck me..." and it still holds true - unfortunately; its now almost a quarter of a century later and there's been a very strong effort (by various segments) to wash/delete it out of the national memory.
You're right, boron. Burns my ass it does.
DeleteSarge, in some since it is always the case, time and human memory being what it is. A generation or two comes and goes, and suddenly no-one remembers vividly the Fall of Jerusalem or the Fall of Constantinople or invasions of the Mongols and Hums or even that parts of France once belonged to the English Crown - except for those few that cherish such things and those historians that keep such things in memory. Even in 23 years, 9/11 has less and less of a connection with those born after it, who have only known the world that such an event has left.
ReplyDeleteWhen my father and mother attended his ship reunions, one of his highlights was always meeting with at least one or more of the Pearl Harbor Survivors.
True, it grates on me nearly every day that people don't care about history.
DeleteCirca 1960's the Army had a USAUER wide alert every month. On December 7 we automatically got loaded and ready. Seems the Colonel commanding the 37th Engineer Group believed this was, what would be termed to day, a "teachable moment". Sometime during the day or evening the alert was called.
ReplyDeleteFrom the time the alert was called, we had two hours to be ready to go to war and our alert position (Campo Pond, Hanau).
Definitely a teachable moment, a constant reminder that the price of peace is eternal vigilance.
DeleteAnd this year, 2024, the USS Arizona's crew has finally gathered together forever. Something to remember. Fair Weather and Following Seas, Lt. Commander Lou Conter.
ReplyDeleteYes, they are once again, in a manner of speaking, ready to get underway, the crew is all present and accounted for. May they be remembered forever.
DeleteThe attack ignored the oil tanks, shipyard drydocks, and the entire submarine base too. Three more factors that made the eventual defeat of the IJN almost inevitable. Add in the code breakers making the reverse ambush at Midway possible and the outcome was almost a foregone conclusion.
ReplyDeleteUS subs succeeded in doing to the Japanese what the German U-boats could not to the British and Soviets: strangle their economies to almost nothing.
The U-Boats came very close. Our participation before officially going to war helped. Our full entry doomed the Axis.
DeleteNobody asked themselves if getting into a war with a country that has 48% of the world's industrial power.
DeleteNobody ever does.
DeleteThe 1941 attack may have ignored the oil tanks, but the environmentalists have done the job for our potential adversaries by forcing the closure of the Red Hill fuel farm. The inability to stage necessary quantities of fuel at Pearl Harbor to support Pacific Fleet operations may have already caused our defeat in the next war. We simply do not have the tanker capacity to support major operations in the Pacific, and that is with existing assets. If one or more of those inconveniently become unavailable for any reason, we are doubly screwed.
DeleteJohn Blackshoe
We are led by fools.
DeleteAnd Pearl Harbor was somewhat of a repeat of Port Arthur.
ReplyDeleteYes, another Japanese sneak attack.
DeleteAnd the IJN's attack on China in the 1890's.
DeleteSeems they had a knack for that.
DeleteDo you think any other inscrutable orientals have studied those events and learned from them? Have we?
DeleteJB
Good question.
DeleteHard to believe, but in terms of time lines, we are about as far from WWII as those men were from the American Civil War.
ReplyDeleteWow! How did that happen?
DeleteI think some people believe that the last time the US military was this weak was in the days before December 7, 1941. They think that this is a bad thing. Me, I’m not too sure it is. An awful lot of lingering animosities are also mostly militarily impotent and they all know it. A few of them have been counting on US to keep them safe and if that costs our grandkids everything they have, the people out there are OK with that and manfully, to a man, resist actually arming their own selves adequately because they think we owe it to them to fight for them. As with December 8, 1941, the world just changed profoundly. About 85% of US would care no more for defending Taiwan from Red China then we cared about defending Hong Kong. You see he problem. Now is the time to make the decisions about what is in our real strategic interests and what is not. Fighting wars against Nationalists has been a disaster for US and it’s time to reflect on why. It really didn’t work out all that well the last time we actually supported the Nationalists. It is not the mark of madness to ask before embarking on the warpath, just how are we going to actually win this thing? If the answer is too awful to discuss, perhaps some more thought should be given to the proposal. George was right when he suggested involving our country in foreign entanglements. HMS
ReplyDeleteHe was absolutely correct. If it doesn't involve a vital national interest, then it's not our fight. Period. Full stop.
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