Bataille d'Iéna. 14 octobre 1806 Horace Vernet |
It was not.
Some scenes were well done, the setting, the atmosphere of the Revolution seemed accurate. Ridley Scott, in my mind, has always been very good at setting the scene. The Last Duel felt like medieval times, The Duellists, also set in the Napoleonic Era (and a far better film than Napoleon), felt right in depicting that time.
The history in this film is terrible, absolutely terrible. Trenches at Waterloo? The rain stopping just before the attack? Napoléon on horseback in hand to hand combat with infantry? Preposterous.
Even though the terrain in Sergei Bondarchuk's Waterloo was exaggerated way out of scale, it appears the folks who chose the setting for Waterloo in this film paid absolutely no attention to what the battlefield actually looked like.
Messengers having two horses, one they're riding and the other they're leading was shown in the film, but only at Waterloo. Really? I get the idea, having a spare mount, but it didn't work that way. Messengers rode hard and fast, leading an extra horse would make that hard to do. At any rate, that's the first I've ever heard of such a thing.
Sending multiple messengers along different routes, that's how it was done. Poor subalterns weren't expected to lead another horse while they galloped about.
One more thing, the Prussians finally show up in the film, about nine years too late, and they come in on Wellington's right flank, not his left. Couldn't even be bothered to get that right. (And again, bloody trenches!)
Oh yes, apologies should be offered to Spain as well, they had a major hand in Napoléon's downfall, they aren't even mentioned in the film
If the Waterloo depicted in the film was bad, the battle of Austerlitz was worse. Napoléon's achievement in driving his troops from the Channel coast to the northeast of Vienna, in winter, convincing the Austrians and Russians that his army was strung out and tired was a brilliant strategic achievement.
In the movie, Napoléon draws the enemy onto a frozen lake, then bombards it, destroying the enemy. (The Satschan pond was real, legend has it that the French did breakup the ice as the Russians and Austrians retreated across it causing many of the enemy to drown. Some historians question whether or not it happened to that extent.)
And who in the film crew though that armies used so many effing tents? There's a whole bloody village of tents at Austerlitz and a regular campground at Waterloo.
The French and Variety got it right. An awful, awful movie.
Dear me, they even got Napoléon's birthday wrong!
I wouldn't give the bloody thing half a star out of five. Definitely not worth your time.
Thanks for this Sarge, had high hopes when the trailer came out then started reading "uh-ohs" and "might wanna skip this".......sounds like Hollywood did its thing.
ReplyDeleteI desperately wanted to like this movie. And, to be honest, the first 30 minutes or so weren't bad at all. I found myself saying, "Okay, the history is wrong, but this is entertaining."
DeleteIt started going downhill in a hurry after that.
But to semi-quote Russell Crowe from Gladiator "Were you not entertained?"
DeleteNo. I was not.
DeleteSeems to be a lot of that (awful movies) goin’ round these days.
ReplyDeleteThanks for taking one for the team!
juvat
It's disturbing.
DeleteI am sorry that it wasn't very good. I knew you were looking forward to it.
ReplyDeleteI tried, but it was bad.
DeleteDid he at least get the back story right on HOW they had three working light sabers? ;)
ReplyDeleteHeh.
DeleteI saw it on the big screen, not the story I was expecting, I thought that a guy who had changed the world might have some of that mentioned.
ReplyDeleteI have to mention that most of what I know about Napoleon and what he did (beyond the metric system, canned food and the draft) I learned on this blog or from books suggested here.
Ridley Scott really dropped the ball on this one.
DeleteThat saddens me Sarge, although it does not surprise me at all as I have heard the same elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteSigh. The flickers of anything modern worth watching grow dimmer and dimmer.
I know, it's disheartening. Some people will walk away from the theater thinking that what they saw was history, as opposed to simplistic crap.
DeleteSome people watch the network news and think it's all true...
DeleteYou've got me there.
DeleteSorry for your disappointment, Sarge. The trailer had me contemplating it; you've saved us time and money, the former more precious than the latter these days. Shoulda known better.
ReplyDeleteBoat Guy
Oh I how waited for this movie, that made the disappointment much greater.
DeleteThis ensures that I will not be seeing it.
ReplyDeleteNot worth your time, guaranteed.
DeleteLL (Larry Lambert) said that Joachim Phoenix's Napoleon was a brooding introvert. From all I've read the real Bonaparte was an extrovert and an optimist. Between you and LL, ain't even gonna waste a moment's contemplation of seeing this fewmet. Merde!
ReplyDeleteHow hard would it have been to show him as an energetic force of nature, able to sweep people up like a magnet picking up iron filings? To show correct arms and armor, correct historical facts?
Ridley, ya done screwed the pooch. How far you, RS, have fallen from greatness.
Sorry you, OAFS, wasted an afternoon and, what, $30-40 to see this dog squeeze?
Sounds like it didn't even make the criterion of a decent movie, which would be "Was it worth seeing more than going to work or mowing the lawn?"
I had to see it in order to actually have a basis for criticizing it, if that makes any sense. I've seen reviews on YouTube based solely upon the trailers (some of which were pretty hokey) and I didn't want to go that route. I've actually seen comments from people who really liked the battle scenes, which IMHO were absolute trash.
Delete"Was it worth seeing more than going to work or mowing the lawn?" - Uh, almost anything is worth that, but not in this case.
Sorry that you were disappointed. I haven't been to a movie since "Return of the King." My theory is that all the good scenes are in the trailers and the filler between will be either revisionist claptrap or SJW claptrap.
ReplyDeleteThat does seem to be the way. But for Napoleon, even the trailers are crap.
DeleteAnd they manipulate the trailers to make the movie something completely different than it actually was/is. The trailers for "Dead Poets' Society" made it out to be a comedy with Robin Williams being Robin Williams at his finest. Which it was totally not. Go for a comedy, watch a drama about student pressure and suicide.
DeleteThe movie studios seem to be full of idiots.
Delete"Seem to be"?
DeleteWhy didn't Scott mention the fact that Wellington enjoyed air superiority? Or that the Vickers .303 machine gun was a decisive factor at Waterloo (sarcasm by the way)
DeleteRetired
I always thought it was due to the T-Rex Cavalry that had pom-poms mounted on their chests that broke the French Cavalry.
DeleteBeans - Yes, "seem" doesn't fit there.
DeleteRetired - I'm sure if he had a bigger budget something like that might have occurred.
Delete(My head is still spinning at the idea of trenches at Waterloo.)
Beans - Don't give Monsieur Scott any ideas.
DeleteBeans, I love DPS. It's, I think, a great commentary on the education industry. I'd call it a dark comedy.. I can really relate to the scenes about poetry...all through my schooling the English teachers all seemed to work hard at sucking all the pleasure out of reading anything, especially poetry.
DeleteEnglish teachers, bane of my existence in college.
DeleteYout hink Napoleon was bad? Have you seen "Devotion" yet? They absolutely turned the black Marine aviator into a sad parody of a stereotype in an attempt to garner diversity and inclusion points. It was flat disgusting what they did to the memory of that young man.
ReplyDeleteOK. FIRST Ens Jesse Brown was a Navy fighter pilot. The movie was based on Adam Makos' book. Have you read it? The story is about the friendship between Brown and Tom Hudner,(another Navy pilot).
DeleteYa know what? I'm not gonna bother to respond any farther; if you don't even know what service these men were in, it's not worth my time to write any more.
Boat Guy
lol no - I have seen it and it's a good film, a very good film. And FWIW, Ensign Brown (still an ensign after two years, racism much?) was not treated well at all, the story had nothing, I repeat nothing, to do with garnering diversity and inclusion points.
DeleteBG - Shack.
DeleteTotally different topic but I wanted to give you time to reflect. This Saturday, December 16, 2023 is the 250th anniversary of "The Destruction of the Tea". The more popular name but of less accuracy is "The Boston Tea Party". Seeing your mention of General John Gavin's "The Minutemen" provoked my mention, herein.
ReplyDeleteWhy yes it is. Not sure if I'm going to cover that here.
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