For those who don’t, it started as and still is, the name used to identify a flight of jets and the individual members of the flight. It would identify the flight to the various controllers and the flight would know that the controller was talking to THEM! For example, “Juvat flight, you are cleared for Takeoff”
“Juvat, roger”
Later: “Juvat 2, commit right target” ( My wingman now locks on to the target on the right side on his radar)
Even later: “Juvat flight of two on initial”
“Roger Juvat, you are cleared to land”
In this particular case, "Juvat" is the traditional name for the 80th Tactical Fighter Squadron Kunsan AB, ROK. My first operational assignment. Taught me a lot about a lot of things, many of which I've already discussed, others are best left unsaid.
So…callsigns were official! But…Later on it became a custom to address pilots by a call sign even on the ground. While a pilot could try and "influence" the call sign selection, that didn’t always work. Especially if they had done something foolish. After a while, virtually all the Pilots had "call signs" Then the WSO’s (Weapons System Officers AKA Back Seaters) wanted "call signs" of their own. So it is written so it shall be.
Not many knew about the 80th when I got back to the states and on Friday evening, at the O Club Bar, pilot call signs started getting assigned to any newly assigned Pilots/WSOs I said I wanted "juvat" as mine and it got accepted.
Then the support folks, then the Navy, then the Marines got on the tactical call sign boat…Heck even the Sea Bees have them now. Seems it’s only a matter of time before every American in the country has a call sign.
The difference is the official call sign is capitalized, personal call signs are not. Hence "juvat" instead of "Juvat".
After I retired from the USAF, I took up the name in lower case even though I am no longer a part of that prestigious organization but have fond memories thereof.
“Where are you going with this post, juvat?”
Well.. On with the story!
My beloved daughter and the mother of two fabulous children**, is also the "HR Manager for Employee Relations" for the city of College Station, which impresses me. I still have fond memories of the small little girl who is now a full-grown woman, both as a boss, a mother and a wife. Love her!
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Recently (it actually was yesterday as related to the writing of this post)*, she went into the City Manager’s office, AKA "Her Boss" to discuss a problem with one of the city employees. The City Manager happens to also be a Naval Reserve Officer in a Construction Battalion . Construction Battalions are unanimously referred to as a “Sea Bees”.
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Yes, Beans, he is one. I shall refer to him thusly.
Anyhow…she and Sea Bee discussed the problem and her recommendations for dealing with him. Upon hearing the story, he sat back and said “I think I’m going to have to give you a call sign. You've earned it. From now on you’ll be called “Reaper” after seeing the look of confusion on her face, he added “As in Grim”
She now has a Call Sign! I'll have to change my memory on what to call MBD (My Beautiful Daughter) on this blog. I guess, Reaper has been decided.
I got quite a chuckle when she told me about this at breakfast Saturday. So it is written so it shall be.
*Yes, I thought it was hilarious and thought all y'all might also. So got it published "most skosh!"
**(In total I have 3 grand kids, Little J’s daughter, my middle grandchild, is also fabulous. Just saying!


Sea Bees are the official pollinators of the Navy. Old Guns
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juvat
Times change juvat, good for for your offspring. One wonders how many others have earned a call sign from that city manager eh?
ReplyDeleteProbably quite a few!
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The best thing about having a Sea Bee as a head of HR is that they know how to use power equipment to bury the bodies.
ReplyDeleteOr maybe the "termination" was not that final. Hard to tell from how you wrote the story.
Well…I have some doubt that was the case, but….
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Or kill using a surveyor's pole (actually happened on Saipan, SeaBee surveying crew gets jumped by a lone Japanese, guy with surveyor pole spear-chucked said Japanese soldier, resulting in dead Japanese soldier.)
DeleteWhen the kids are in high school and before they commit to something they need to call the "Reaper" and see if it's ok... ought to be fun!
ReplyDeleteRob, I’m pretty sure that’s going to be forgotten before HS. But…might be a good reminder for teens.
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Not if grandpa helps :-)
DeleteWell…there IS that!
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Call signs (or the civilian equivalents, nicknames) are earned, not granted, and sometimes not at all what we would like them to be. That is a pretty darn good one, though.
ReplyDeleteTHBB, pretty sure she’ OK with it. She’s a pretty tough cookie!
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Someone quipped that meeting someone at a reunion who remembers your old nickname is not the worst thing; it's meeting someone who remembers how you got it.
ReplyDeleteThat’s something to look forward to, and you’re right!
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Reaper would be too cool for the Navy. Grim would work though, and begs more of the story.- Tuna
ReplyDeleteGood point! But I’m not on the callsign committee.
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Good tale, juvat! Sea Bees tend to be mad north-west, but when the wind is southerly know a hawk from a handsaw.
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Joe,
DeleteA hawk from a handsaw ??? Not sure I understand.
juvat
Don't remember your Shakespeare? From Hamlet. Telling someone that he's not really crazy, but knows his stuff.
DeleteMeans he knows chalk from cheese.
Knows his onions.
His a$$ from his elbow.
Practical. Well ground ed.
juvat,
ReplyDeleteI see the 80th has moved around a lot. I mean attachments, not the different bases.
How common is it that a unit is assigned, reassigned, reassigned again? It is as of the brass kept looking for a good fit.
Rick,
DeleteIt was an outstanding squadron Historical as well as talented. The two CO’s ( it was a 1 year assignment for all) were outstanding The first one aka Batman made 3 star before retiring. Outstanding officer.
juvat
Sounds like Reaper takes after her mom. Good on her.
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DeleteThere ARE a lot of similarities in their demeanors. They did and will go far.
juvat
I was a Rescue Swimmer in the Navy in the 80's. My wetsuit got damaged on deployment. The only replacement that would fit was a black and white one. That was 40 years ago and people from the Squadron still call me Shamu.
ReplyDeleteJimC, Yes, well, Callsigns are almost never flattering. How wuuude!
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Well, at least 'she' got it for doing something good... :-)
ReplyDeleteThere is that!
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I believe that I may have been the most junior (and only) 0-2 in the front seat of the Phantom in 1964. My flight Commander and drinking instructor gave FUZZ to me. I hope I wasn't too big of a screw up.
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Well....Since you're still commenting (if a bit few and far between, but much missed), I'd say you didn ot screw up too badly!
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juvaT
You know MBD implies a MUD, right?
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