Monday, September 4, 2023

Road Trip!

 Note to Self:

Hey juvat! Since you're reading this, I'll just give a subtle reminder that today is your anniversary.  You'll be in College Station, take Mrs J somewhere nice for dinner. 

Just sayin'.

It's been a very educational week since we last spoke.  Early on in the week, I got to explore the entire perimeter of our property,  almost a mile. Yes, I met my steps goal for the day, prior to lunch I might add.

When we built the new house, we had three, inside, dogs. As mentioned in previous posts that has now grown  to 6 dogs, 4 of whom are large.  Upon the advice of several of Sarge's readers, our 2 Great Pyrenees (GPs to use Suz's acronym), now spend a great deal of time outside. Mostly at night.  Sleep is a wonderful thing.

However there is one downside to that.


This would be the view from our garage. The view includes three of my favorite things.  My Truck, My workshop and  my Barbecue Pit. Beans will no doubt coin a new verse to a Sound of Music song at this point.

Back on  target, juvat!

On Target, Aye, Sarge.

Most of our readers will note that the only way to enter the house is through that gate which opens into the yard. That gate opens and shuts many times per day.  I feed the horses, visit my workshop, go check the mail, go to HEB on and on.  

It wouldn't surprise me if it opened and shut a couple of hundred times a day, which hadn't been a problem since our first 3 dogs were inside dogs. As mentioned above, 2 of the new ones are outside dogs.

So, there I was, heading to my workshop.  Opened the garage door, hit the gate opener and the largest GP (Atticus) calmly walks out the gate. As he did so, he glanced over his shoulder, wagged his tail and barked an invitation to go for a walk. 

Which we did although the closest I got was maybe a hundred feet to him. Learned/relearned a lot along the way.  First, our property line fence is in generally good shape.  I do know where both Whitehead and Axis deer enter and leave our property however.  Useful info should I ever take up hunting.  I relearned a very important lesson, that Mesquite trees have thorns and that my Blood Thinner meds are very effective at helping me bleed.  Especially from the scalp.  I think I could be a shoe in for a role in a horror movie.

Anyhow, after Atticus lead me completely around the perimeter, he then walked up to the gate and patiently waited for me to rejoin with him and open it, so he could go drink some water.

The episode reminded me of a back burner plan I'd had to modify the fence and the gate.  I would fence in the two sides of the driveway and put gates on them.  The garage would open  to the driveway and no gate needed.  

So,  we looked for a fence builder online.  Got a quick answer and a visit.  Explained what I wanted. He did some quick figuring and said he could start the following week.  I asked the really pertinent question and coulda swore he said 3 to 4 hundred dollars.  I said let's do it. I also told him  of another project involving fencing.  I wanted a couple of thousand feet of fencing so the horses could graze and not be able to exit the property.  Told him this was a ways down the road but would like a ball park figure to start budgeting for.  He said ok.

Little while later, I get a ding on my phone.  It's him.  Quotes me a price of $3800.  I ask him to confirm that is for the future project.

Yep, Beans, you guessed it.  The quote was for my little 50' fence.  Suffice it to say, "Thanks, but No Thanks" were the next words out of my mouth.

So, I think pounding t-posts and manhandling cattle panels is in my near term future.

But our project du jour will require us to head to College Station for a few days.  MBD and The Rev have done quite a bit of excellent renovation work on their house and we're going to visit to see what we can do to help them finish.  MBD and Future Grandson are getting close to the big event.  Rightfully so, they'd like to avoid strenuous activities as much as possible.


 Part of my role is working on a live edge mantle for their fireplace.  Got all that I can do, without actually being there, done.  Got the template made for hanging it.  Just got to mount the brackets on  the wall and stain it to their wishes and it'll be done.

The blue line is "The Target"


So, as I said, been busy, ups and downs, successes and not quite successes, exploration and learning.  In short...SNAFU!

Peace our y'all.

43 comments:

  1. Perhaps, when the weather cools a bit, invite some friends over for a barbecue and a fence building exercise. Many hands make light work and folks get to visit and know each other a bit better. This is how my almost 900 square foot garage was built with the assistance of friends from work over 3 weekends and then my wife and I finished out the interior and lived in it for two and a half years until we could afford to build a house. I like to think most of us enjoy assisting others while getting to learn their quirks and foibles and sense of humor. Especially rewarding when there is barbecue to eat and a beer at the end of the day!
    -Barry

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    1. Barry,
      Good Idea! Beans, Sarge, and Tuna c’mon Down! There’s holes to be dug! Fences to be built. Isn’t that a Jimmy Buffet song?

      RIP, Jimmy gonna miss ya!

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    2. Is the ground (where you are) really hard when you pound the posts?

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    3. Barry has a point. Are you in touch with any of your ex-students?

      As to the ground, if it is especially tough you can rent jackhammers and augers. They are a needful thing.

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    4. I'm a people person- more of a bridge builder than a fence builder! haha.

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    5. Sorry all, had network difficulties with my old iPad. Seem to be back up now.
      As to bridge vs fence building…the old adage that good fences make good neighbors also applies
      juvat

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  2. Yowsa! Fence building is...uh....yah. Maybe he said thirty four hundred?! Good to find out the pup knew what to do on new to him property.

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    1. Nylon, could be, but I was pretty sure he said 3 to 4 hundred. Thirty four hundred would have caught my attention and I’d have paused to confer with my money manager (AKA Mrs J). Whatever it was is not worth worrying about at this point. When we get ready for the long fence, we’ll be looking for “other” quotes.
      Thanks
      juvat

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    2. Had to chuckle at the fence quote. As the fence gets shorter it seems the price/ft. increases exponentially. Last place we lived I had a about 1/2 mile of fence I needed to build to keep a neighbor from making a claim on that property. Called a fence builder and all around great guy, who by all accounts was reasonable. But being of tight fisted German lineage, I questioned the price/ft. His comment was spot on..."Well, if you want to drive the fence cost per foot down, next time just buy a bigger ranch". After kicking dirt and pretending I was mentally calculating, he being the best in the County, got the job. As an added plus, he did road work too.
      Cletus

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    3. Cletus, I suppose that’s right, although a Ten times order of magnitude increase offends, as you call it, my German tight fistedness. I’m fairly sure my capabilities are enough to build a functioning if not beautiful set of 25’ fences. The long one? Not so much. Have to do more research on options. You’ve been on the property, the long fence would run on the right side of the road as you come on the property, cross the road at the “y” and follow the road up to My Sister’s house, with a gate at the “y”
      No too hard just a couple thousand feet or so.
      All it takes is “mo money!”
      juvat

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    4. The rage around here (the outback of Ohio) is 3 or 4 board Kentucky fencing. We are on the edge of horse country. I have 5 acres and my jaw hit the floor when I got the quote. And the fence contractors don't dig all of the holes around here; the pound them in with pile drivers on the back of tractors. Only every 4th or 5th post goes in cement.

      The issue is the cost of materials. They are not cheap.

      It might make more sense to put in a man-gate next to the automatic gate. 36 or 48 inches, or a bit larger than your mower/tractor. Easier to keep the dogs in that way. (Maybe on a more direct line to the workshop. Might require stepping stones.)

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  3. In the interim, make a pass through / walk through / gap gate. Not sure what they call them, but it looks like fence to the horse, and you can walk through it. When I was at elementary scruel, they had a gap in the fence, then about 2 feet in, there was another short section of fence, parallel with the main one. It "covered" the hole, but you could walk through. Any help out there on what this is called?

    Or just do a bit at a time. Just hang one panel every few days. I've had to seriously slow down my output, or I just collapse for a week.
    Happy woodworking! And wear a hat.

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    1. I think that is a kind of stile. Ours on the farm were crosspieces on each side at top and bottom of two (wooden) posts with a wide board hanging vertically in between suspended from the top crosspiece. To use, one pushed the board to one side, stepped over the lower crosspieces and squeezed through. The cows never figured it out.

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    2. A KISSING GATE????? Really????? Ach du lieber...

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    3. For those, like me, that haven’t a clue what a “kissing gate” is.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissing_gate
      I thought it interesting
      juvat

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  4. Ahh, yes. Happy Anniversary to us both! As for your head, you might be like me. If I ever go out without a hat, I return either sunburned, or with a scraped up scalp.

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    1. After Dr. Zorro and Dr. Drunken Zorro got to slash and remove things from my head, headgear has been a daily thing. Even at night if the skeeters are horrible (and, yes, I have one of those net thingys to put over said hat.)

      So go update your headgear. Not a baseball hat, a fully rimmed hat. Hey, it's Texas, maybe a Stetson. Or a Panama hat. Even a good boonie hat would do. Protection from both sun and tree-pokey thingys.

      Don't forget the sun glasses either. You can buy construction safety glasses that are also sun glasses online or at the hardware store. My preferred types are the wraparound DeWalt ones. Cheap and durable.

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    2. Tuna, Hope you had a happy Anniversary also. Thanks
      juvat

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    3. Beans,
      I know, I know. Gotta get a new routine on the house exiting checklist.
      juvat

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  5. Juvat, Poppy the Brave has a similar trait: she assumes that us chasing her is a game, and she loves games. We have spent many an hour or two in years past walking after her in the neighborhood as she gamely almost let us get near her and then scooted off. This lasted until either we could catch her or she (like Atticus) decided she was done and went back to the house.

    On the bright side, we met many of our neighbors that way. People are always willing to help out with a stray dog.

    That fence price seems...expensive, but I assume maybe demand is playing apart. I am trying to think what we paid (to be fair, 4-5 years ago) when we had our 6' wooden fence replaced. I want to say it was $25-35 a linear foot. If I am doing my math right, that is almost double. Maybe inflation, but - to coin a now common phrase "Come on, Man".

    (And for goodness sake, if you address the problem personally, please wait until it cools off a bit. I do not think I can manage another health crisis at this point affecting my favorite people.)

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    1. THBB,
      Yeah, the daily fence building window is fairly limited. About 0700 to 0930 and usually no evening window til after dark. So slow and easy will be the mantra. But, the cheap part of is ok with that as the laborer on the job’s hourly rate is fairly low. Advil and beer.
      juvat

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  6. Ah fencing, did a bit of that this year. (Mind you the "put up a fence" fencing, not the "waving a blade around" fencing.) We used KDN (Kid Next Door), he was reasonable and he's a very hard worker. He likes the odd bit of work now and then. And, like I said, he's reasonable.

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    1. Sarge,
      At this point, I think I’d rather be sword fighting. Got to fix MBD’s fence. One of her dogs got out and is AWOL right now. Off to Lowes for fence fixing. It’s always something!
      juvat

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  7. Do your schools have a work program you could tap into and have the kids come and and do some of the work. I had been asking around for worker to paint a fence. School called and asked if I wanted them, said of course. Other than 2 girls with the boys who giggle a lot and stretched there back a lot it went very well. Got almost all of what I wanted done in a long day. But they worked hard. I had sodas, water and lunch for them. Growing teens, you know.

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    1. Anon,
      Definitely going to look into that option. Thanks for the tip!
      juvat

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  8. Having put up my share of fencing up N in OK, I find the T-post pounding makes my shoulders very unhappy. There are tractor mounted fence-post drivers, but as my late cow partner stated, you lose about a finger a day. I came up with the following solution: 2” diameter scrap tube pipe of the appropriate length to get desired T-post depth welded to an old brake drum, using some angle iron as reinforement in X-fashion. Put that construct drum-side down over T-post (it’ll stop at the flutes), and slap-hammer/tap the pair into the ground at the desired location just enough so it stands unsupported. Slightly soggy ground is a must. Place the loader bucket flat on the top of the T-post and press it down. The depth is determined by the length of pipe. Repeat as needed. The process is additionally facilitated by a helper who holds the T-post vertical while the bottom of the bucket is positioned on the T-post, and who then steps away.

    BTW, blood thinner and barbed wire require thick gloves and clothing. Probably best done in early winter.

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    1. Soggy ground has to be a help.

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    2. Anon,
      Agreed about the shoulders. Definitely going to look into hydraulic assistance options.
      juvat

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    3. Rob
      Yep soggy ground is on the pre-flight (pre-dig?) checklist.
      juvat

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  9. You have the LGDs & you're putting in more fence, sounds like you need something for the LGDs to guard?

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    1. Rob,
      Two horses, Five buildings, including a priceless workshop, a minimum of 4 humans, 6 dogs and 2 cats, 3 vehicle and several cases of wine.
      They’ve got their paws full of things to guard
      jvat

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  10. Well, at least Atticus knew to stay by the outside of the fence...hopefully...

    Fences: the way I see it, you have 2 options--one is what others have suggested and call the local school for some help/volunteers, and yes, get/rent a post hole digger or a T-post driver unless you are just gun-ho for an upper body work-out...and trust me, ya don't want to do it that way. Rent the post hole driver. Do you guys have a Future Farmer's Group, or a 4H thing at the school? Maybe some teens would like to learn how to string fence--or already know how and are willing to make some $$. Or throw a BBQ/wine tasting party...but no one gets any alcohol until all the work is done. My husband and I got a new roof that way--well, we did 3 roofs that summer, the fellow across the street who was a roofer, the fellow next door who was a wholesale construction manger and our roof...we did pizza and beer, but same difference. Of course we were in our early 40's when we did that, and ALL of us were pretty sore for the next week or so.

    Of course, there is a 3rd option--get another quote, or two...and see how out-of-line the first quote really was...

    And, like Beans said--be sure to wear a real hat, use sunscreen, gloves, and do it in the cooler weather...
    Speaking of whom, I hope Beans, Mrs B and the wonderdog all survived the latest excitement that went blowing through FL recently without issue.

    Suz

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    1. Suz,
      Good suggestions. I am pretty good with chilling beer and cooking on the grill. Might be a good trade , Thanks.
      Yes, Ma’am, on the hat. Must be a Sue thing as my Sue says the same thing about hats.
      😉
      juvat

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  11. Have I told you how much I hate blogger? Just ate a very nice set of comments, the rat bastid did.

    Fencing, I wonder how much was base cost (showing up, transport, travelling etc) and how much was for linear foot. Did he give you a straight number or did he break it down line item? I'd be curious why so much for so little.

    As to the deer, if you don't want to hunt but do like deer meat, let someone you know and trust do the hunting in exchange for some meat. If I had the land, I'd for sure be shooting (legally, of course) bambis and porkies as long as Mrs. Andrew only saw the finished product. The only things that have kept me from hunting has been the time away from Mrs. Andrew, the expense of it all (travel, fees and licenses, ammo and such) for a low probability of success.

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    1. Beans,
      Not sure how to set that up with occupied buildings on the property. But if Joe keeps up his Bull Feces, just might have to learn.
      juvat

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  12. Grumble... DEFINITELY soggy ground... and yes, fencing costs have gone stoopid!!! Good luck with the mantle!

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    1. OldNFO,
      Mantle install went well. Details to follow.
      juvat

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  13. Happy Anniversary!! Have a great dinner.

    I haven't hired anyone to build a fence of late. However, the prices of the components are high. I put in a 6' chain link about 60' x 60' around the back of our house about 4 years ago and thought it expensive then. Two years ago I built a 6' field fence around the front of the house because of whitetail deer eating the bushes and flowers. The T-post costs made my eyes bug out. I did save money by using cedar posts for end and corners that were harvested from my 5 acres. I would be glad to share my "bounty" with you!

    The woodwork you are doing is nice. I wish my shop were insulated and air-conditioned like yours, so I could be working during this heat. I am limited to mornings and late night. A question, where are you getting your live-edge pieces for mantels and desks?

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    1. BillB,
      Gonna visit Lowes for a few necessities on MBD’s todo list. Gonna price out some fence parts/options and do some figgering when I get home
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  14. Something to make a note of before you actually get going.
    Find out where your water line is and if you have underground power and comm, it would be a good idea to know so you don't have any surprises.

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    1. Kurt.
      Definitely #1 on my prep list, but thanks for the reminder.
      juvat

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  15. I wish that the Gargle would allow photos in the comments. Ace, the wonderdog, an undersized GP, who is our granddog needs some exposure.

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    1. Oh, and Ace has nothing to guard, but he protects it anyway . . . very loudly.

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